Re: Separation of formatting...
Steven R. Newcomb wrote: > > [Sean Mc Grath <digitome@i...>:] > > > Version 2 : SGML - Generic Markup > > <p><i>Customer</i>Joe Bloggs</p> > > Maybe the <p> is generic markup, but the <i> > is procedural markup, not generic markup. > > > Version 3 : SGML - Data Modelling > > <Customer>Joe Bloggs</Customer> > > The above is generic markup, for sure. > > "Generic" means "according to kind". "Generic markup" means markup > that indicates *what kind of thing* is being delimited, rather than > *what to do with the thing* that is being delimited. The latter is > usually called "procedural markup". In light of the ongoing and eternal debate over just what markup is/means/does, the following passages may interest you. I think the line between, on the one hand, what you call generic and what Paul (if I understand him properly) calls abstract markup, and procedural or formatting instructions is pretty thin when you look closely. From "Ad Herennium", usually attributed to Cicero: "Colon or Clause is the name given to a sentence member, brief and complete, which does not express the entire thought, but is in turn supplemented by another colon, as follows: 'On the one hand you were helping your enemy.' That is one so-called colon; it ought then to be supplemented by a second: 'And on the other you were hurting your friend." This figure can consist of two cola, but it is neatest and most complete when composed of three, as follows: 'You were helping your enemy, you were hurting your friend, and you were not consulting your own best interests.' (Was the modern editor just being a smarty-pants by omitting colons from the quoted examples?) Tully's not talking about written punctuation marks here (markup), but about rhetorical techniques of the public orator - phrasing, rhythm, delivery. In other words, processing instructions. The text goes on to discuss "Comma or Phrase" and "Period" among other things, all in terms of the orator's art. Viewed in this light, the common punctuation marks (including paragraph and other layout conventions) which most of us probably think of as abstract or generic demarcations of thought-units (or something like that), may be viewed as notes on how delivery: distincly how-to. Still works that way, as anybody who's ever heard a recitation by a bad reader can attest. xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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