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Re: Re: Identifying the Top 10 xml Issues.. something with leg

pon encryption issues
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>  <Shopping List>
>   Customer_Name&="Mr Fred Parker"
>   PON#=5645
>   Deliver_Asap?=True
>  <Product Item> PLU&="A256" Qty#=5 Rate$=4.56</>
>  </Shopping List>

... and what, syntax, semantics and interop are just assumed ?? There
are 2 sides to every conversation (integration).

Fraser.

On 24/07/06, David Lyon <david.lyon@p...> wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-07-23 at 23:48 +0100, peter murray-rust wrote:
>
> Application List
> ---------------
> > * encoding of complex documents (this was the original emphasis from
> > SGML projects such as TEI and DOCBook)
> > * non-textual content.  MathML and CML were the first (ca 1998); now
> > the whole of bioscience is built on XML
> > * "data". strong input from Microsoft, IBM etc. ca 1998, with strong
> > mapping onto RDBs.
> > * processing languages such as XSLT
> > * XML infrastructure (XSD, RELAX, etc.). XML has taken over middleware
> > * rendering (e.g. SVG. SMIL)
> > * message passing (SOAP, WSDL, etc.)
> >
> > Is there anything essentially different between business data and
> > genomic data? They both need to be created, stored, transmitted,
> > processed and perhaps repurposed.
>
> I would not know. Business data is usually strongly typed these days
> into strings, numbers, booleans, currency values and so forth. I don't
> know if those are pressing issues for genomic data.
>
> > At a general level they both
> > require a formal specification (Schema), maybe an ontology,
> > domain-specific tools for precessing them.
>
> Often Business data doesn't need a formal specification or schema.
>
> This requirement has really held back xml or at least kept it in the
> domain of tightly coupled systems. We need to go loose-coupling in
> future, not insist that a programmer has sat down beforehand and work
> out the schema for every single document.
>
> Let me give you a real world example situation.
>
> Receptionist wants to type a shopping list. Must get schema created by
> IT. Loaded on a web server. Schema loaded on the web server. Validated.
> It is so complicated and requires so many resources that it just doesn't
> happen.
>
> An easier way is to just embed all the type information and have no
> schema, no web server, nothing else. This can be typed:
>
>  <Shopping List>
>   Customer_Name&="Mr Fred Parker"
>   PON#=5645
>   Deliver_Asap?=True
>  <Product Item> PLU&="A256" Qty#=5 Rate$=4.56</>
>  </Shopping List>
>
>
> > I can appreciate that security, authenticity and proof of transaction
> > will be important but they are not really XML issues. Of course they
> > may require the client to be configured significantly differently
> > from the applications I am interested in.
>
> Yes, they definitely can be issues.
>
> I'll give a very common example.
>
> In business, a lot of companies want to encrypt their prices so that if
> the file is copied by a competitor sales rep, the prices can't be easily
> read out. That is because they couldn't get the encryption key file.
>
> <Item Information>
>  PLU&="A256" Name&="Kitchen Veneer" Rate$~=HD321_C
> </Item Information>
>
> decrypted it would read..
>
> <Item Information>
>  PLU&="A256" Name&="Kitchen Veneer" Rate$=402.00
> </Item Information>
>
> That's the most often asked encryption question that I get asked in the
> industrial park. btw, ~ denotes an encrypted field.
>
> David
>
>
>
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