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• To: 'Rick Marshall' <rjm@z...>
• Subject: RE: [Fwd: Potential Gap (WAS Re: [owl-s] communication between web services)]
• From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <len.bullard@i...>
• Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:59:35 -0500
• Cc: Chiusano Joseph <chiusano_joseph@b...>, "'Thomas B. Passin'" <tpassin@c...>, xml-dev@l...

Well, as a qualified bonobo, that can be ok sometimes.
I don't ever hope to come up to the level of human 
intelligence.  I hope to use human intelligence faster 
and at greater scope.  On my pessimisic days, I keep 
remembering the guys in the sashes swinging through 
the windows in the Revenge of the Crimson Assurance. 
It is so easy to race to the bottom of a hill and 
so tempting when the tempers are high, the day is 
long, and we've moved changed the state of a bit 
one time too often.  But it's Friday anyway and 
Masta Clinton and PFunkadelic will be in town tomorrow 
night, so there is hope.

To me the key to what the semantic web is after is the 
ability to create, publish and unify ontologies 
so a dynamic but convergent view of things of interest 
emerges bottom-up.   Knowledge management systems 
partake of the same things as most modern information 
systems, eg, object-orientation, events, messages, 
monitoring, auditing, etc.   The difference is that 
a knowledge management system should be capable of
presenting to the user more than they knew when they 
put the information into it.  The old term for this 
was a *synthetic* system.  Applications such as autonomic 
healing systems show that this is doable but the costs 
for acquiring the patterns/recognizableEventSequences 
are not trivial.  Therefore, it pays to make attempts 
to standardize the aspects we can as soon as we can. 
We've had years to think about it, implement systems, 
and so forth, but just as we did with SGML, we need 
to create a simpler version, then step back and take 
another run at the same problems with more ants.

Web services are object and component techniques one 
level higher emphasizing messaging as a form of 
data-unified-by-syntax-and-simple-structure.  If I 
just look at the pages of specifications, I get the 
same chilly feeling, but when I look as each spec 
as part of a composable set of components, I see 
things I recognize from different conceptual systems 
unified.   So I think this works.   Web services 
are not the semantic web.   I think a semantic 
web can be implemented with web services, in fact, 
I doubt we can do that successfully any other way.

Running code is better than running laps.

len


From: Rick Marshall [mailto:rjm@z...]

i agree with all of that. so far all this technology has just given me a 
neater way of doing things, but not a smarter way.

i feel like the technology is at ape intelligence - way short of human 
intelligence.

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