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And they pretty much killed the use of GIFs over time, at least, I seldom see people making them these days. Plus, a lot of Unisys employees almost went after the guy that did that with pitchforks because we were excorciated. Pain begets obedience if not good will. Unisys had a web browser project too, but dropped it because they observed they would get everything they needed from Microsoft. Here's the rub: it was a markup browser not an HTML browser and the inside experts told them that generalized markup had no future in the face of HTML. D'oh! len -----Original Message----- From: Tim Bray [mailto:tbray@t...] (a) I was talking about claiming patent rights on some basic nonproprietary protocol/format like HTTP/XML/HTML etc, and (b) Last time I checked neither of those are profitable :) If there were an existence proof, it would be GIF, but the amount Unisys raked in is trivial compared to the amount they've made selling computers to support web applications of one kind or another -Tim
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