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[XML-DEV Mailing List Archive Home] [By Thread] [By Date] [Recent Entries] [Reply To This Message] Re: Re: URIs, concrete (was Re: Un-ask the question)
Kian-Tat Lim wrote:
> Everyone agrees that a namespace is a collection of related
> names, whether they be for elements or attributes.
I most emphatically do *not* agree with this [*].
An XML namespace as defined by "Namespaces in XML" is *not* a
collection of related names in any meaningful sense.
The "collection of names, identified by a URI reference"
mentioned in [XMLNS] section 1 paragraph 4 consists of
the countably infinite set of qualified names that have
that URI as their namespace name. That's it.
For example, in:
<html:html xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<html:head>
<html:OZZY-R00LZ/>
</html:head>
<html:body/>
</html:html>
the first child of the 'html:head' element does not belong
to the XHTML vocabulary, is not defined in any of the XHTML DTDs,
and may not appear in a valid XHTML document; yet it is
unquestionably, incontrovertibly "in the XHTML namespace".
This is not a useful distinction.
> The whole
> problem seems to me to be a dispute between those who think
> names in no namespace belong to no collection and thus should
> be avoided and those who think names in no namespace are
> "locally scoped" -- defined in some ineffable way by their
> parent but not belonging explicitly to the parent's namespace.
That sounds about right. I think the whole problem
goes away once we dispose of the notion that "being
in a namespace" has any more semantic import than,
say, "starts with a vowel".
[*] Unless by "namespace" you mean what [XMLNS] calls a
"Traditional Namespace." Then I agree.
--Joe English
jenglish@f...
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