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Re: linking, 80/20

• To: Amelia A Lewis <amyzing@t...>
• Subject: Re: linking, 80/20
• From: Erik Wilde <net.dret@d...>
• Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:09:53 +0200
• Cc: xml-dev@l...
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Amelia A Lewis wrote:
>>i honestly don't see the point. people working with dom or sax or xslt 
> Horsefeathers.

i guess this comment is for native speakers only. i simply take it as an 
expression of the deepest respect for the thing being commented on...

> DOM and SAX are pre-infoset APIs.  SAX does a pretty good job of
> supplying all of the information later canonicalized in the infoset,
> partly because some parts of the infoset are reasonably logical, and
> partly because the design of SAX is sufficiently clean to support it.

i knew i was being a bit unprecise, but i thought it would be clear from 
the context what i wamted to say. you are using a parser because you 
don't want to handle markup, you want to use a data model.

> DOM <opinion expression-type="forbidden-word">[expletive deleted]</opinion> at this. 
> Super-infoset, sub-infoset, just forget infoset, because the mapping
> isn't clean.

true. dom3 will hopefully be really infoset-conformant. let's see.

> Ugh.  Part of the reason that the infoset is an attractive abstraction
> is because it tried (even if it didn't quite succeed) to KISS.  Adding
> more infoset items (more! more! more!) is an exercise in marginalizing
> the infoset; the more cruft shoved in, the less interesting it is.

i don't want to extend the infoset, i want to create modularized infoset 
extensions. if you're not interested in them, simply forget them. if you 
are (like i am interested in hyperlinks associated with xml content), 
you will be happy to have them.

cheers,

erik wilde  -  tel:+41-1-6325132  -  fax:+41-1-6321035
           mailto:net.dret@d... -  http://dret.net/
           computer engineering and networks laboratory
           swiss federal institute of technology  (eth)
           * try not. do, or do not. there is no try. *

• References:
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    • From: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@s...>
  • Re: linking, 80/20
    • From: Erik Wilde <net.dret@d...>
  • Re: linking, 80/20
    • From: Amelia A Lewis <amyzing@t...>

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