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EDI-L is the world's largest technical forum for discussing topics related to Electronic Data Interchange (EDI), including EDIFACT, and X12 Technologies. Topics include EDI Software, EDI Standards, EDI applications, EDI examples, and more.


Re: Digest Number 1656

Posted 6/2/2006 11:54:00 PM

I will be out the office on Friday, June 2nd through Thursday June 8th. If you need immediate assistance with EDI, please contact Chris Lottes at   . . . Read full entry »


Guess as a New Trading Partner - SPS Testing

Posted 6/2/2006 4:53:00 PM

Hi All, Looking for input from anyone who has set up Guess as a new Trading Partner through the SPS Testing website. We use the iSeries(AS400) and Inovis as a translator - so the experiences of anyone with a similar background would be even more appreciated Thank you, Kat   . . . Read full entry »


Code Lists - GIS 4.0

Posted 6/2/2006 3:02:00 PM

Hi all - I was just wondering - Does anyone have a method for mass-importing a code list into GIS 4.0? I have a situation where I need to use a master code list (about 300 lines) and would prefer not to have to manually type them all in. I can produce the list in a number of formats, so that sho . . . Read full entry »


<EVENT>Meeting Remider

Posted 6/2/2006 3:02:00 PM

The Mid Atlantic Electronic Commerce Users Group (MAECOM) upcoming meeting featuring Jeff Leach, Senior Product Manager with Sterling Commerce, will be held in Trevose, PA on Wednesday, June 14. This will be an open, interactive session and a great opportunity to learn something new while networki . . . Read full entry »


File - Reminder

Posted 6/2/2006 9:16:00 AM

This message is configured to go out automatically on a monthly basis as a reminder message. If you have a Yahoo ID already set up for the list, you don't need to unsubscribe from the list if you are going on vacation or otherwise going to be away from your email. Simply change your settings to . . . Read full entry »


Emanio's Integrator Product

Posted 6/1/2006 7:28:00 PM

Anyone have any experience with Emanio's new "Integrator" product? We are evaluating their EDI solutions. Please share your opinions, views, comments, thoughts, etc. Thanks!   . . . Read full entry »


Re: GTIN Generated from UPC

Posted 6/1/2006 6:31:00 PM

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the links and info!!! Hope others find these tools useful also. -Carl --- In "cmcmillan3" <cmcmillan3@...> wrote: > > Does anyone have a tool or know the math to create a GTIN based on a > UPC code? I had a little utitlity that d . . . Read full entry »


Re: GTIN Generated from UPC

Posted 6/1/2006 3:11:00 PM

of course there is an on-line resource! http://www.gs1.com/productssolutions/idkeys/support/check_digit_calculator.html --- Earl Wertheimer < wrote: > Carl > > =MOD(10-MOD(SUMPRODUCT(--(MID(E3,{1,3,5,7,9,11},1)))*3+SUMPRODUCT(-- > (MID(E3,{2,4,6,8,10},1))),10),10) > > is . . . Read full entry »


RE: GTIN Generated from UPC

Posted 6/1/2006 2:57:00 PM

This calculator might help: www.uc-council.org/ean_ucc_system/education_support/cdc.html Todd -----Original Message----- From: Earl Wertheimer [mailto: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:07 AM To: Subject: Re: [EDI-L] GTIN Generated from UPC Carl E3 is the cell with the complete number (w . . . Read full entry »


Re: GTIN Generated from UPC

Posted 6/1/2006 2:06:00 PM

Carl E3 is the cell with the complete number (with check digit). (You should change that to A3) The formula goes in C3 to the right. I also added: =IF(VALUE(RIGHT(A3))=C3,"OK","error") which compares the last digit in A3 to the calculated check-digit... If the chkdigit is cor . . . Read full entry »


Re: GTIN Generated from UPC

Posted 6/1/2006 1:49:00 PM

Carl =MOD(10-MOD(SUMPRODUCT(--(MID(E3,{1,3,5,7,9,11},1)))*3+SUMPRODUCT(-- (MID(E3,{2,4,6,8,10},1))),10),10) is the formula for the UPC checkdigit (12 digits) Just add digits 12 & 13 (to the even/odd sections) =MOD(10-MOD(SUMPRODUCT(--(MID(E3,{1,3,5,7,9,11,13},1)))*3+SUMPRODUCT(-- (M . . . Read full entry »


RE: GTIN Generated from UPC

Posted 6/1/2006 1:43:00 PM

I forgot zeros don't effect the check digit.... :) -----Original Message----- From: cmcmillan3 [mailto: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:56 AM To: Subject: [EDI-L] GTIN Generated from UPC Does anyone have a tool or know the math to create a GTIN based on a UPC code? I had a little utitlity that . . . Read full entry »


<EVENT> NEECOM - Annual 2-Day Summer Conference & Educational Session

Posted 6/1/2006 1:42:00 PM

The New England Electronic Commerce Users’ Group (NEECOM www.neecom.org ) will be hosting its Annual Summer Conference on June 15-16, at the Doubletree Hotel in Westborough, MA. Any professional with an interest in e-Commerce, EDI or EAI will find our program interesting and useful. You can visi . . . Read full entry »


RE: GTIN Generated from UPC

Posted 6/1/2006 1:39:00 PM

Add 2 zeroes to the front and let the check digit recalculate. If you need to calculate the check digit by hand google "mod-10 calculate". Travis- -----Original Message----- From: cmcmillan3 [mailto: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:56 AM To: Subject: [EDI-L] GTIN Generated from UPC . . . Read full entry »


GTIN Generated from UPC

Posted 6/1/2006 12:56:00 PM

Does anyone have a tool or know the math to create a GTIN based on a UPC code? I had a little utitlity that did this in Excel but I cannot find it. I need to create 3 GTIN's and am going crazy. Any help is appreciated. -Carl   . . . Read full entry »


<MISC> Need to Talk to George Perry

Posted 5/31/2006 9:46:00 PM

I went too far in cleaning and reorganizing my mail folders. George if you are listening, send me a email. Thanks & Best Regards James D. Sykes II ARGOLIS, Inc. 1740 Pine St. Martinez, CA 94553 Cell: 01.510.502.3333   . . . Read full entry »


RE: <sales> Integrated ASN Solution

Posted 5/31/2006 7:21:00 PM

The link accidentally added a period in my last post. Here is the link that works: http://www.virtlogic.ca/products/edidesktop.htm Thanks, Nathan _____ From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Nathan Camp Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:54 AM To: Richard Hug; Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <sales> Integ . . . Read full entry »


RE: <sales> Integrated ASN Solution

Posted 5/31/2006 6:54:00 PM

Dear Interested List Readers, If you want a great system to handle your ASNs (especially if your accounting package is weak on ASN creation), check out Virtual Logistics' EDI Desktop at http://www.virtlogic.ca/products/edidesktop.htm. You can contact Robin Smith at 905-814-1790 x2223 or for more . . . Read full entry »


<JOBS> EDI / SeeBeyond Integrator -- Midtown Manhattan

Posted 5/31/2006 6:34:00 PM

Townsend Enterprises, Inc. EDI / SeeBeyond Integrator Reporting To: Senior Manager Location: Midtown Manhattan To Apply Call Vickey Townsend - 612-719-3251 Email: or Position Summary The role of the EDI/SeeBeyond Integrator is to develop, coordinate, implement and com . . . Read full entry »


Re: Great Plains 8 - EDI Implementations

Posted 5/31/2006 2:09:00 PM

Bridget > I have a client who is considering moving to Great Plains 8. Can anyone offer > any feedback on it's abilities? Likes and dislikes of the software? So far, > It's my understanding that Great Plains uses V-Sink for EDI translation in > conjunction with Gentran for communica . . . Read full entry »


Re: <tech> Integrated ASN Solution

Posted 5/31/2006 1:29:00 AM

Greetings, Another solution that has been proven is Complylink from ESupply. Their website is: www.e-supplylink.com They have UCC-128 labels for most of the big guys, and hook in to several EDI translators. Good luck. Richard Hug On 5/30/06, Travis Truax < wrote: > > We are curren . . . Read full entry »


Re: Great Plains 8 - EDI Implementations

Posted 5/31/2006 1:25:00 AM

Greetings, I have had clients that have used Ebridge. They provide an out of the box solution. Their website is: www.ebridge.com You will still need some help understanding how to properly use EDI, but the technical side is done. Regards, Richard Hug On 5/30/06, Art Douglas < wrote: > . . . Read full entry »


RE: Great Plains 8 - EDI Implementations

Posted 5/31/2006 12:04:00 AM

Nathan is being very modest. The translator supplied by his company, Softshare, has the capability to do what he recommends, and to do it very well. You will also find it a cost-effective solution backed up by excellent customer support. Art - a satisfied customer of Nathan and Softshare -----O . . . Read full entry »


RE: Great Plains 8 - EDI Implementations

Posted 5/30/2006 10:58:00 PM

Bridget, VSync is not the only translator that will work. Actually, I think VSync is a reseller with another software vendor's translator under the hood. Since Great Plains is a Microsoft product, you will also see information about MS BizTalk as an option for translators. Most of the good transla . . . Read full entry »


HTP REQ 3286 - EDI / Cyclone Cosnultant, Chicago , IL.

Posted 5/30/2006 7:42:00 PM

Horizon Technology Partners has an immediate opening for an experienced EDI / Cyclone Consultant. Your skills are needed to assist a large Manufacturer/Distributor located in Northwest suburbs of Chicago, IL with supporting the project team leading a global consolidation of EDI translators. Duties . . . Read full entry »


Great Plains 8 - EDI Implementations

Posted 5/30/2006 7:18:00 PM

I have a client who is considering moving to Great Plains 8. Can anyone offer any feedback on it's abilities? Likes and dislikes of the software? So far, It's my understanding that Great Plains uses V-Sink for EDI translation in conjunction with Gentran for communications only. Will Great Plain . . . Read full entry »


RE: <tech> Integrated ASN Solution

Posted 5/30/2006 6:15:00 PM

We are currently evaluating software to fill the ASN+ void. We also use Gentran Server as our translator, and are looking for a package that will only use ONE map for Gentran, and we'll pick and choose what data to send depending on partner maps. Right now EDIsoft Visual ASN looks pretty good, but . . . Read full entry »


<tech> Integrated ASN Solution

Posted 5/30/2006 5:05:00 PM

I earlier posted a message asking for recommendations from the group as to what would be a replacment option for GE's ASN Plus. I failed to mention that we use Gentran:Server/Integrator for our translator/mapper. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Management is wanting to move quic . . . Read full entry »


<tech> - Integrated ASN solutions

Posted 5/30/2006 2:49:00 PM

Hello, The company I am working for currently uses GE's ASN Plust to integrate 856's and print the necessary labels. We are looking to replace ASN Plus with another product. I was hoping that those on the list might be willing to share what you use and recommend a replacement product. T . . . Read full entry »


<JOBS> Senior eCommerce Specialist - based in Melbourne Australia

Posted 5/29/2006 8:06:00 AM

Hi All, We are an Australian Retailer looking to fill a permanent position for a Senior eCommerce Specialist. Details are listed below. If you are interested please email me your resume. Many Thanks. > Regards, > > Theo Ross. > B2B Gateway Team eBusiness & Methodologies (eB& . . . Read full entry »


RE: <JOBS>Interoperability Testing Position, Ft. Worth, Texas

Posted 5/26/2006 7:57:00 PM

I thought Sharon was a Canuk. Thanks, Martin Morrison -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Mike Rawlins Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:18 PM To: Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <JOBS>Interoperability Testing Position, Ft. Worth, Texas If my assumptions about the return address do . . . Read full entry »


Re: <JOBS>Interoperability Testing Position, Ft. Worth, Texas

Posted 5/26/2006 7:17:00 PM

If my assumptions about the return address domain are correct, leave it to a dry, British sense of humor to pull our legs this well. Very well done! Mike sharonus_1234 wrote: > We are looking to fill a recent opening of the position of President > in our company. Here are the specifics: > . . . Read full entry »


Re: <JOBS>Interoperability Testing Position, Ft. Worth, Texas

Posted 5/26/2006 2:00:00 AM

Earl, I don't think you're going to get a reply from Beth. It looks like she's gone. You interested? Dave Dave Taylor President Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C) 310-561-5200 (P) 800-339-1497 (F) 310-3 . . . Read full entry »


RE: <JOBS>Interoperability Testing Position, Ft. Worth, Texas

Posted 5/26/2006 1:15:00 AM

I'm still waiting for a reply from Bath. I could be wrong about the Drummond certification pricing, and if I am, I would like to have the correct information. --------------------------------- Beth How much is enrollment for a new product? How much does it cost per year after that? You wrote & . . . Read full entry »


RE: Handling unstructured text associated with an 810

Posted 5/26/2006 1:07:00 AM

Steve Howards reply reminds me of the current situation with Sears Canada. Their 850/POs are accompanied by an 864/Text document which is used to print some special shipping labels. This is done for their big ticket, direct to customer items, where a special 6" x 6" label has to be pri . . . Read full entry »


Re: Handling unstructured text associated with an 810

Posted 5/26/2006 1:04:00 AM

Hi Steve, I hope this doesn't get me shot by the group, but perhaps you may want to entertain the idea of implementing the 811 Consolidated Invoice. Originally used by the phone companies, I used it in the autoglass industry to send invoices to the insurance companies. It is a complex document-- . . . Read full entry »


RE: <JOBS>Interoperability Testing Position, Ft. Worth, Texas

Posted 5/25/2006 8:49:00 PM

That was just too darn funny for a Wednesday night, Sharon. I skimmed right over it. It wasn't till I heard about the verdicts in the Enron Exec trials that something clicked. : Had to go to the Drummond site and look up Rik's bio, again. "In addition, Drummond currently serves as chairman o . . . Read full entry »


Re: Handling unstructured text associated with an 810

Posted 5/25/2006 8:37:00 PM

> EDI does not deal well with unstructured text. The standard method for > reducing the volume is to assign codes as shorthand for the various > options. Witness: the FLSA Compliance PID segment everyone who gets 810 invoices wants. (Like anyone really checks it!). MCM   . . . Read full entry »


RE: Handling unstructured text associated with an 810

Posted 5/25/2006 7:06:00 PM

EDI does not deal well with unstructured text. The standard method for reducing the volume is to assign codes as shorthand for the various options. I would look at the code lists currently in the standards and see if this problem has not already been addressed by one of your competitors. Why doe . . . Read full entry »


Handling unstructured text associated with an 810

Posted 5/25/2006 5:52:00 PM

We have a number of vendors that have traditionally included a lot of unstructured text on their paper invoices, and this has presented problems in moving these vendors to 810s. Using the IT1/PID loop, we have developed the capability to process a modest amount of text associated with each detail l . . . Read full entry »


BizManager - Flagging a record once read from Database

Posted 5/25/2006 3:09:00 PM

Can anyone help me with how to flag a record once it is read from the database on an outbound read. This is a BizManager implementation, direct from database (Oracle) to BizManager (database to X12 EDI). We know we can do it from within the database on a timer basis, but we're hoping for a more rea . . . Read full entry »


Re: [edi_gns] Gentran NT Server 5.0 mailbox question

Posted 5/25/2006 1:46:00 PM

Thanks for everybody's help! It was a combination of suggestions that helped me solve the dilemma. Because I am trying to use the files from SAP as SAP creates them through the IDOC processing, the file names are limited. I could ask a script to be created to rename, but my goal is to do this wi . . . Read full entry »


<JOBS> GXS AI 5.0 REMOTE SUPPORT PERSON

Posted 5/25/2006 2:16:00 AM

Hi All, Versant Technologies Inc is seeking candidates that are highly skilled in GXS for contract and project work nationwide. Remote work is OK. Please send resume to Naidu Darapaneni at naidu at versantinc.com or call. 847-690-9698. Thank you! Regards, Naidu Darapaneni Versant Technologies Inc . . . Read full entry »


<JOBS>Interoperability Testing Position, Ft. Worth, Texas

Posted 5/25/2006 1:58:00 AM

We are looking to fill a recent opening of the position of President in our company. Here are the specifics: • drive the adoption for standards by focusing on the technological benefits of interoperability and conformance testing. • lead marketing initiatives and coordinated indu . . . Read full entry »


RE: Invoice terms not sent in 850

Posted 5/24/2006 10:21:00 PM

Invoice terms should never be set by the customer as they are your terms. The customer may confirm the terms you have established with them in the 850, however. Dale Marthaller (604) 461-6779 -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of cicciotom2004 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:41 . . . Read full entry »


Re: Invoice terms not sent in 850

Posted 5/24/2006 9:32:00 PM

> It seems Neiman Marcus does not send the invoice terms in segments ITD > into 850. > > Did you already experienced this? > How is someone expected to retrieve such terms once it's time to > invoice 810? 1) use some default terms for the Partner. Many TPs have a single set. 2 . . . Read full entry »


RE: RE: [edi_gns] Gentran NT Server 5.0 mailbox question

Posted 5/24/2006 9:27:00 PM

When you create a collection mailbox to collect files from SAP make Gentran Application mailbox as a recipient of your collection mailbox (option on the collection tab). This way it will be picked up and translated by Gentran automatically. The documents will end up in the Out Drawer and from there . . . Read full entry »


Re: Invoice terms not sent in 850

Posted 5/24/2006 9:15:00 PM

> It seems Neiman Marcus does not send the invoice terms in segments ITD > into 850. > > Did you already experienced this? > How is someone expected to retrieve such terms once it's time to > invoice 810? You have to make a business decision: Do you just accept the invoice terms . . . Read full entry »


RE: [edi_gns] Gentran NT Server 5.0 mailbox question

Posted 5/24/2006 9:11:00 PM

How about a small-app/utility/command-line-script/cron job-whatever that just moves the files from directory X, renames them for your import, and puts them in directory Y ? I know you said you have no control over the name, but just curious- why not? Travis- -----Original Message----- From: . . . Read full entry »


RE: Invoice terms not sent in 850

Posted 5/24/2006 8:47:00 PM

From your account payable vendor file maybe? -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of cicciotom2004 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 4:41 PM To: Subject: [EDI-L] Invoice terms not sent in 850 Hi all It seems Neiman Marcus does not send the invoice terms in segments ITD into 850. Di . . . Read full entry »


Invoice terms not sent in 850

Posted 5/24/2006 8:41:00 PM

Hi all It seems Neiman Marcus does not send the invoice terms in segments ITD into 850. Did you already experienced this? How is someone expected to retrieve such terms once it's time to invoice 810? thanks   . . . Read full entry »


Gentran NT Server 5.0 mailbox question

Posted 5/24/2006 8:06:00 PM

Hello group, I've been running Gentran on the server since 2.0. Back in the day, in order to get the file name I wanted, I had to create collection mailbox and then an export mailbox to work the file name magic. Here is the situation, my application puts several files into a directory. They hav . . . Read full entry »


RE: Carbon copies on AS2?

Posted 5/24/2006 6:47:00 PM

Rich, It would depend on the AS2 software you use, but we use Cleo's VL Trader (LexiCom). I can envision calling a pre-action batch file to copy the files to a new directory and then using some scripting within the product to replace IDs before the send. Matt __________________________ Matthew B . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/24/2006 2:36:00 AM

Beth How much is enrollment for a new product? How much does it cost per year after that? You wrote "The facts are that Drummond Certified AS2 testing costs $10,000 per test". Per test means what, exactly? How many tests are required to be certified? The price to certify a new produc . . . Read full entry »


New file uploaded to

Posted 5/24/2006 2:07:00 AM

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the EDI-L group. File : /UOM Codes.xls Uploaded by : rah1420 < Description : X12 - v5010 - Complete UOM List in XLS format (C. Cancilla) You can access this file at . . . Read full entry »


Anyone use Softcare

Posted 5/23/2006 11:30:00 PM

Hi all; I was wondering if anyone ever heard of or used Softcare out of North Vancouver. We are evaluating e-commerce solutions at my company and Softcare, Softshare, and a few others are on my list to evaluate. http://www.softcare.com/contacts.php Thanks Jeff   . . . Read full entry »


GIS/SAP RFC Error.

Posted 5/23/2006 9:42:00 PM

We are trying to connect our GIS 4.0 PRD instance to SAP production and we are receiving the error: com.sap.mw.jco.JCO$Exception: (103) RFC_ERROR_LOGON_FAILURE: Name or password is incorrect. The user id and password is a valid SAP user id as we are currently using it in GIS 3.0 PRD (SAP Suite Ad . . . Read full entry »


Feeding back on Oracle Integration Product

Posted 5/23/2006 7:59:00 PM

Hi, Did any of you get a chance to work with the Oracle Integration Product for solving EDI Needs ? If yes, any comments on the translator ? Thank You. Regards, Prasad. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]   . . . Read full entry »


RE: Feedback on webMethods?

Posted 5/23/2006 7:05:00 PM

webMethods is a wonderful integrator. It is, IMHO, a lousy EDI translator. We are working with Trading Networks as a transport layer. Other sectors within JNJ have also deployed webMethods as an EDI engine although we are still mulling over our options regarding a shift in translator technology. . . . Read full entry »


Re: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/23/2006 4:13:00 PM

Beth, What's the cost today to get a hosted or behind-the-firewall data sync solution certified by Drummond to become a Preferred Solution Provider for GS1 (nee UCCNet)? The last time I looked (when it was still UCCNet), it was $60,000 and 1-2 years for the initial battery of tests plus periodic . . . Read full entry »


<EVENT>Meeting Announcement

Posted 5/23/2006 3:30:00 PM

Meeting Notice for the Mid Atlantic Electronic Commerce Users Group TOPIC: Outsourcing SPEAKER: Jeff Leach Senior Product Manager Sterling Commerce COST: $25.00 Payments accepted via cash or check at the meeting DATE: Wednesday, June 14 TIME: 9:00 AM - 12:00 PM Registration and Coffee @ 8:30 A . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/23/2006 3:03:00 PM

Well that is totally, like cheap for a test. Like duh! And why don't you let us all know why "we" are demanding you to charge us for some *totally worthless* service? Travis- -----Original Message----- From: Beth Morrow [mailto: Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:33 AM To: Subject: RE: [ED . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/23/2006 2:32:00 PM

The facts are that Drummond Certified AS2 testing costs $10,000 per test unlike "$50,000 plus a huge yearly fee " as Earl Wertheimer said. We test as often as the supply chains demand. Beth Morrow President Drummond Group Inc. www.drummondgroup.com -----Original Message----- Fr . . . Read full entry »


Carbon copies on AS2?

Posted 5/23/2006 2:28:00 PM

Has anyone ever emulated the function of a VAN carbon copy using an AS2 connection? Curious to see how others might have faced this issue. Rich Hurd Senior Analyst, Business Application Management Johnson & Johnson Consumer Companies North American Consumer IM 908-874-1523 [Non-text port . . . Read full entry »


Feedback on webMethods?

Posted 5/23/2006 12:03:00 PM

Hello, We are currently evaluating webMethods software, and I am looking for feedback from experienced users. Specifically, we are considering using Trading Networks (as the gateway – both inbound and outbound), the Modeler, and the webMethods Process Runtime engine. I have been asked to prov . . . Read full entry »


FW: SCEBF Hot Topic This Wednesday 5/24 - Don't Miss it!!

Posted 5/22/2006 11:24:00 PM

You are invited to attend this interesting and educational seminar. The subject is RFID. Read on ... Art Douglas Director Southern California e-Business Forum 877-464-8915 -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:41 PM To: Subject: SCEBF Hot Topic This Wednesday . . . Read full entry »


RE: Gentran documentation

Posted 5/22/2006 7:21:00 PM

You can get all the information you need at this site: https://support.sterlingcommerce.com/user/login.aspx You're welcome. -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: Behalf Of Nely Ruiz Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:10 PM To: Subject: [EDI-L] Gentran documentation Hello, I would like to . . . Read full entry »


Gentran documentation

Posted 5/22/2006 7:10:00 PM

Hello, I would like to know if somebody can help me sending me any type of documentation of Gentran about, mapping and scripting. Thank you. --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this messag . . . Read full entry »


Emanio Customer and/or Consultant

Posted 5/22/2006 3:35:00 PM

Hi Everyone, I've been currently hired by Emanio to lead up the Delivery and Service Group. I would be very interested in hearing from you if you are a current customer and/or a consultant who is involved with our products. Please let me know what application of ours you're using, what transact . . . Read full entry »


Re: <MISC> Documentation

Posted 5/22/2006 1:45:00 PM

You can find the inovis documentation at their support site. https://support.inovisworks.net/websupport/Documentation/IPNet/BizMg400_24/ Regards, Prasad. ----- Original Message ---- From: tigerwooda < To: Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:11:50 AM Subject: [EDI-L] <MISC> Documentation . . . Read full entry »


Re: Syntax Tokens

Posted 5/21/2006 5:53:00 PM

I have seen this kind of problems with the GIS 3.1. The best way to resolve this issue is making changes to translator.properties.in file. Changes are adding use byte for each map it uses and also on both input and output side of the map should have FREE FORMAT and also use the map encoding MS9 . . . Read full entry »


Re: Syntax Tokens

Posted 5/21/2006 5:47:00 PM

Hi Carl, I would'nt bother about the input type, but I would try output Encoding type as ISO8859_1 (ISO8859_1). That worked fine for me for Umlaut characters. Also, on the map input, open the properties tab, and you could see Encoding where yoiu can select the type of Encoding you want to. . . . Read full entry »


Syntax Tokens

Posted 5/21/2006 4:26:00 AM

Hello group, I"m running GIS 3.1 on UNIX and have an issue with special character "ée" and "é" being sent in data. My client does not want to engage the customer to make data correct. Do anyone have any idea on how I can solve this issue? data: <NAME>L. Si . . . Read full entry »


<JOBS> GIS Consulting Opportunity in AZ

Posted 5/20/2006 2:56:00 AM

Good day! We are looking for a qualified candidate to fill a GIS opportunity in AZ. This is a 3-month consulting opportunity. Below are the skills needed: 1. At least one year experience with BPML and process model development. 2. Engaged in a project using Web extension, HTTP. 3. Engaged in a GI . . . Read full entry »


The Joys of EDI, part II

Posted 5/20/2006 2:28:00 AM

Client calls: Big panic because ASN to SearsUS had failed and had to be resent. We found the problem (data-entry) and the ASN was resent, but no 997! Then they received an email from SearsUS about a missing 997 for a PO that was never received.... hmmm Called VAN (Easylink) and was reminded th . . . Read full entry »


Re: <tech> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION

Posted 5/20/2006 2:06:00 AM

It's a simple rhetorical question. He said that the maps are done. As part of testing the maps they are checked back in and compiled. The maps live on the unix box. It's all in the day one curriculum. I don't care about burning suits or burning bushes. I've already been doused in gasoline and . . . Read full entry »


Re: <tech> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION

Posted 5/20/2006 1:17:00 AM

Not to defend a lame question. but if you are going from NT to UNIX there is a bit of difference in how you "Register" objects. The workstation is connected to the server with wires with Unix and NT. On NT it uses strictly an ODBC interface that works via TCPIP. On Unix the client is noth . . . Read full entry »


Re: <tech> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION

Posted 5/19/2006 6:26:00 PM

LMAOROTF. }:-O Some of these questions are just too much. Come on, dude. Break the spine on the reference book and give it a try. Even better, most of the new docs are on PDF. Search for the key word you are looking for. Hmmm... "compile map". Maybe. You bring the sco . . . Read full entry »


<MISC> Documentation

Posted 5/19/2006 4:11:00 PM

Does anyone have the latest online or any previous online documentation for Inovis' AS400 product? Thanks in advance!   . . . Read full entry »


RE: DC Locations

Posted 5/19/2006 12:40:00 PM

Wal-Mart has their DC locations posted in Retail Link. You have to be a vendor to access it. "LiBassi, Margaret" < wrote: If you are a Wal-Mart vendor, they will provide you with an EDI 816 transaction, which includes all of this information. -----Original Message----- From: [mailto . . . Read full entry »


RE: <MISC> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION

Posted 5/19/2006 1:46:00 AM

Wow! Thanks a lot James! Here I was, convinced for the longest time that he was just going to an interview for an EDI job! Thanks again. -Paul |-----Original Message----- |From: [mailto: On |Behalf Of James Hatcher |Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:12 PM |To: |Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <MISC> . . . Read full entry »


Re: How to rate EDI companies

Posted 5/19/2006 12:21:00 AM

Don > Our EDI needs are really quite simple. > All we do is receive a few 850's and send a few 810's and 856's. All 850s are NOT equal. We have many clients in the Retail Distribution industry. A WalMart ship direct to Store PO is a lot different from a bulk shipment to a DC. JCPenney ro . . . Read full entry »


Re: <MISC> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION

Posted 5/19/2006 12:12:00 AM

Before the board lurkers pounce on me I would like to preface this email with a statement: I am not prejudiced against Indians in any way, the following is about an industry condition that happens to involve India. If you notice many of these open ended questions are from people with Indian name . . . Read full entry »


How to rate EDI companies

Posted 5/18/2006 11:08:00 PM

Our EDI needs are really quite simple. All we do is receive a few 850's and send a few 810's and 856's. I only have 2 trading partners. I don't expect this to increase. The various EDI companies make all kinds of claims and I have no idea how to rate the companies. If you were in the selection . . . Read full entry »


Re: <tech> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION

Posted 5/18/2006 8:45:00 PM

Brian: Watch out, you attach him or his ability on this list and you will get flamed like no tomorrow. Been there, got the shirt and the arrows are still burning. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Lehrhoff To: kiran kumar ; Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:32 PM Subjec . . . Read full entry »


RE: Re: <MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/18/2006 6:42:00 PM

Your error rate; do you further distinguish that between data errors and mapping errors? We have a metric of "EDI errors" which made my blood run cold when I was first hired, until I calmed down and realized that these were data-driven inaccuracies that my maps had no control over, and . . . Read full entry »


Re: <MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/18/2006 6:37:00 PM

We typically report monthly metrics at a very high level: # of Partners (customer vs supplier) # of transactions (all doc types lumped together) Error Rate (% of transactions - indicates how much exception work had to be done and if corrective actions were effective) Avg FA turnaround time by p . . . Read full entry »


Re: <tech> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION

Posted 5/18/2006 5:49:00 PM

Satish, RTFM --> page 7-38 in the mapping documentation. Cheers, Stan --- kiran kumar < wrote: > > Hi , > > > Once we are done with the mapping and it is uploaded > to Unix Server please let me know how the gentran > workstation is linked to gentarn server and where . . . Read full entry »


RE: Free Standards Browser, forum and resource center.

Posted 5/18/2006 5:41:00 PM

Hello folks, I wanted to reply to a to a question I received in my email this morning publicly because I sure that more than a few of you my be pondering the same question. Question: "May I ask why you are using this forum to promote another one? There are a lot of people on EDI-L and it has . . . Read full entry »


RE: <tech> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION

Posted 5/18/2006 5:38:00 PM

But it all seems to work on the white board........ _____ From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Brian Lehrhoff Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:33 PM To: kiran kumar; Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <tech> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION dude, didn't you get trained? How are you testing . . . Read full entry »


Re: <tech> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION

Posted 5/18/2006 5:32:00 PM

dude, didn't you get trained? How are you testing the maps without compiling them? --- kiran kumar < wrote: > > Hi , > > > Once we are done with the mapping and it is uploaded > to Unix Server please let me know how the gentran > workstation is linked to gentarn server an . . . Read full entry »


Re: ISBN-10 to ISBN-13 Help

Posted 5/18/2006 2:47:00 PM

Being in the publishing industry, I would recommend you do it outside the translator. For current titles you need to take "978" and concatenate it to the first 9 digits of the ISBN. Then you need to write a routine to calculate the new check digit. and concatinate it to the first 12 digi . . . Read full entry »


<JOBS> Web Enablement EDI Applications Developer contracting project announcement - UPDATED Description

Posted 5/18/2006 2:43:00 PM

Hello to all, I am looking for ways to get the word out to the EDI technology community about an eight month contacting project in Charlotte, NC now available through Analysts International. This engagement calls for a specialist in GXS AI data mapping. Overall background required for this proje . . . Read full entry »


<tech> HOW GENTRAN SERVER IS LINKED TO GENTRAN WORKSTAION

Posted 5/18/2006 8:58:00 AM

Hi , Once we are done with the mapping and it is uploaded to Unix Server please let me know how the gentran workstation is linked to gentarn server and where do we complie the map. Thanks for responding in response. Regards Satish __________________________________________________ Do You Yaho . . . Read full entry »


Free Standards Browser, forum and resource center.

Posted 5/18/2006 5:34:00 AM

Ok folks the standards browser was a big success with everyone and the number one request was to add looping structure to the segment viewing screen. It is done, and your comments would be greatly appreciated. Just a side note, we've put in a ton of work into gathering information and putting this . . . Read full entry »


GIS and GXS IE over FTP with SSL

Posted 5/17/2006 10:01:00 PM

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone had any success with this? I've been unsusccessful trying to get the connection established. I'm running GIS 4.1. ~jesse - -- Jesse Gonzalez Network/System Administrator Liberto Management Co., Inc. (210) 226 4167 x285 (210) 226 3075 Fax . . . Read full entry »


<JOBS> HELP!

Posted 5/17/2006 9:11:00 PM

Hi! We have multiple openings in Cincinnati, OH that include contract and direct client hires. These openings are with 3 different clients and all require as/400 experience. GIS experience is a plus and if you have GIS too, we have a job for you! Please contact me at 513-263-6437 or . . . Read full entry »


ISBN-10 to ISBN-13 Help

Posted 5/17/2006 8:48:00 PM

Hi there All, I have Gentran 3.2 and I was wondering if nay of you people out there - would have some kind of code that you could share on how to convert ISBN-10 to ISBN-13 and the reverse ISBN-13 to ISBN10. I have been trying to get something to work in my end but so far I have not been getting . . . Read full entry »


GXS EDI opportunity - immediate!

Posted 5/17/2006 8:29:00 PM

Good afternoon! I wanted to let everyone know that TEKsystems has an EDI Programmer/Analyst opportunity available immediately in southern Indiana. I'm looking for someone experienced with GXS (GEIS) EDI that can set up trading partners, VANs, perform mapping, etc. It's a W2 contract position las . . . Read full entry »


Re: Is anyone else having issues with GXS?

Posted 5/17/2006 7:39:00 PM

Hello group; I am a network engineer at a VAN in Northeast Ohio. We have noticed delays with our interconnect with GXS. Our communication sessions were experiencing very long delays between the time a mailbag was delivered to GXS and put into pending status and the close of the comm session. Wha . . . Read full entry »


Web Enablement EDI Applications Developer contracting project announcement

Posted 5/17/2006 7:17:00 PM

Hello to all, I am looking for ways to get the word out to the EDI technology community about an eight month contacting project in Charlotte, NC now available through Analysts International. This engagement calls for a specialist in GXS AI data mapping. Overall background required for this proje . . . Read full entry »


RE: <MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/17/2006 6:09:00 PM

No, but you're also pointing out the need for different metrics for different "parts of the business." If you applied your 820 thinking to 850s, would "how many PO lines shipped" make sense? Or would "we shipped 5000 small parcel packages (with no allegiance to either UOS . . . Read full entry »


RE: <OFF TOPIC> Is anyone else having issues with GXS?

Posted 5/17/2006 6:08:00 PM

Well, when it comes to Cleveland...I moved to Columbus, now I live in Raleigh, NC. I like this!! Weather is better, more trees, sloooooooowweerrr lifestyle. Enjoy! -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Seay [mailto: Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:01 PM To: 'EDI-L Mailing List' Subject: R . . . Read full entry »


RE: <OFF TOPIC> Is anyone else having issues with GXS?

Posted 5/17/2006 6:01:00 PM

--- "Christopher E. Cancilla" < wrote: > HEY! What wrong with Cleveland? Chris, Just joking! I am sorry. I know people from Cleveland are very proud of their city, but it has the reputation of being sort of an industrial ZONE. In fact, Ohio has the reputation of just being c . . . Read full entry »


Re: <MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/17/2006 5:27:00 PM

> I'm starting to do my own little learning experience > on metrics ... > > What are good metrics for defining an EDI program? If you mean some measure of "how much effort is going to be required to set up the software to translate/map/test" etc the unit of measure I use the . . . Read full entry »


RE: <OFF TOPIC> Is anyone else having issues with GXS?

Posted 5/17/2006 5:23:00 PM

HEY! What wrong with Cleveland? The slogan for the city used to be that "Cleveland is a great place to be". I was born and raised on the east side, (and left as soon as I was able), but returned ... and left again. Remember to have some fun in your day!! :-) Chris Cancilla ___ . . . Read full entry »


Re: Is anyone else having issues with GXS?

Posted 5/17/2006 5:08:00 PM

You know, in italian there is an expression: "Tanto fumo, niente fuoco". "A lot of smoke, no fire". That pretty much sums up GXS. They promise you the world and give you Cleveland. I hope that the people on this list who have to put up with GXS at least have some clause in . . . Read full entry »


RE: <MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/17/2006 5:00:00 PM

Good poitns. In my opinion the three most important variables are the number of... Transactions Partners Communication connections (unique connections) The first is pretty obvious, but certainly having 100,000 transactions/month with three partners is far easier than the same volume ove . . . Read full entry »


Re: Is anyone else having issues with GXS?

Posted 5/17/2006 4:53:00 PM

I just got notified - ICS is having a "slowdown." Technical Service Bulletin (GXS-AM 060517-02) GXS Operations Center 12:30 PM ET Wednesday May 17 2006 ICS Service Slowdown Update -Description- As reported at 10:15 AM ET, GXS Operations Center detected a slowdown in the ICS service. A . . . Read full entry »


Is anyone else having issues with GXS?

Posted 5/17/2006 4:49:00 PM

Is GXS still having problems at the VAN? Our orders are not being received. I sure wish they would contact their customers when they are down!!! Thanks, Nancy   . . . Read full entry »


RE: <MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/17/2006 4:46:00 PM

To your point of maps, another metric; How many of your active maps (percentage) are partner-specific, and how many are generic (multi-use?) Helps to determine complexity of your organization (or inability to push back to your trading partners... LOL) -----Original Message----- *** >I suppor . . . Read full entry »


RE: <MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/17/2006 4:11:00 PM

I think those are also great numbers to consider. I was trying to keep it simple and quick and thought that transactions per support person per month would be the best aggregation of the numbers below. I was looking strictly from a support standpoint. Troy Parrett "Dickey, Colleen" . . . Read full entry »


RE: <MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/17/2006 3:59:00 PM

I agree. I think the numbers of importance are: How many active trading partners are you supporting? (whether a trading partner has 1 transaction or 1000 per month, it still takes the same amount of time researching any that have gone awry). Do you have multiple relationships with those same trad . . . Read full entry »


Re: <MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/17/2006 3:32:00 PM

I'm starting to do my own little learning experience on metrics ... What are good metrics for defining an EDI program? Why do you feel that # of transactions - which seems to me to be more of a function of hardware and software rather than operations - is a valid metric? --- William Troy Parr . . . Read full entry »


Re: x12 v. 5030

Posted 5/16/2006 8:19:00 PM

Eileen > Does anyone know of a good source to see what the changes are in X12 v. 5010 and > 5030 (compared to v. 4010)? I am also wondering if anyone has seen these > versions implemented yet. The only trading partner I've heard talking about it > is Wal-Mart. I would say that the o . . . Read full entry »


Re: Is anyone else having AS2 issues with GXS?

Posted 5/16/2006 8:05:00 PM

We had an issue with GXS that started yesterday afternoon and lasted until around 10pm last night. When I talked with their support desk, I was told that they had a backlog in both the AS2 and ICS networks. We were getting the same files sent to us over and over. They told me that due to the backlo . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/16/2006 6:48:00 PM

EDI is probably one of the few IT related areas that can show a clear ROI which is so difficult to prove in other cases. I distinctly remember a director looking me straight in the eye and telling me that we were only an expense to the company. Imagine his surprise when we showed the savings... . . . Read full entry »


Re: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/16/2006 5:51:00 PM

>I have been in the situation where EDI got it own budget and was expected to >make a profit. Lost money, so to speak, the first three months then decided >to bill all of the departments for "services", and it went through. >When they are learned about all the profit EDI was . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/16/2006 4:18:00 PM

believe that it is all agreed that EDI is not a language, nor is it a programming anything. EDI is a concept based in the heart of the business. If the business does not see the value then the EDI department will both flounder and loose money (corporately). EDI needs to be backed by the manager . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/16/2006 4:00:00 PM

I am not smokin' anything and I used to be a developer for many years. My point was that jumping from C++ to JAVA or from JavaScript to VB Script or to Perl is not the same thing as picking up EDI. I have run into many cases while interviewing when a developer thinks they can just pick up EDI . . . Read full entry »


x12 v. 5030

Posted 5/16/2006 2:29:00 PM

Does anyone know of a good source to see what the changes are in X12 v. 5010 and 5030 (compared to v. 4010)? I am also wondering if anyone has seen these versions implemented yet. The only trading partner I've heard talking about it is Wal-Mart. Thanks, Eileen IQMS EDI Product Manager/ . . . Read full entry »


Re: Third Party Process

Posted 5/16/2006 2:27:00 PM

> I am looking for a high level estimate of what Third Party providers can do, > and an estimate of costs for the service, sign-up cost, document cost, etc. Most third-party services I've encountered offer everything from Fax-to-Edi (user does nothing) to mapping, translation, acknowledgment . . . Read full entry »


<jobs> RosettaNet Business Systems Analyst in Phoenix AZ Area - Contract

Posted 5/16/2006 1:45:00 PM

Hi -- I'm helping a client perform a search for a RosettaNet Business System Analyst. This is a 6 month contract in the Phoenix, AZ area. If you are interested please send your resume, rate, and a summary of experience as it relates to the following. Here are the specifics: * RosettaNet . . . Read full entry »


Third Party Process

Posted 5/16/2006 12:58:00 PM

I am facing a time crunch or I would go out and Google this. I am looking for a high level estimate of what Third Party providers can do, and an estimate of costs for the service, sign-up cost, document cost, etc. Thanks in Advance. Jeff Rover EDI System Administrator Cooper Hand Tools 919.387.2 . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/16/2006 12:39:00 PM

>>"EDI is NOT a like an easy programming language that you can pick simply >>pick up if you are a good developer, EDI is an industry, you have to >>appreciate the fact that it takes years to build good experience to make a >>career out of it. You can not do that in two . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/16/2006 12:22:00 PM

Not a joke, unfortunately..... Just a guy who thinks that if he can BS his way through an interview he will get the job, then eventually...maybe...someday...have a clue as to what EDI is, and how it and the software really work. Sad day in the EDI world if that happens....... Chris _____ Fr . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/16/2006 12:18:00 PM

Exactly!! Chris _____ From: [mailto: On Behalf Of John's Hotmail Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:15 PM To: Kotoyan, Michael Cc: Subject: Re: [EDI-L] PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE. For fear of being flamed again I want to stand on my soapbox and shout to you all, Yes Michael, thank y . . . Read full entry »


Is anyone else having AS2 issues with GXS?

Posted 5/16/2006 2:15:00 AM

I'd like to bring notice to the fact an SLA (Service Level Agreement) brings no guarantee that a service provider (like GXS or Covisint) will ever deliver their services with no interruptions. What an SLA usually brings is a financial penalty to the service provider when they do not perform. An S . . . Read full entry »


GIS & SAP status s

Posted 5/15/2006 10:09:00 PM

Anyone using GIS with SAP and returning status messages back into SAP? We have an outbound BP that is using the out of the box StatusMsg map and it is returning an error when triggering my inbound SAP BP: (104) RFC_ERROR_SYSTEM_FAILURE: Status record 1 is invalid (TABNAM: 'EDI_DC'). My status mess . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 9:31:00 PM

I've found it best to just not help those people where I feel like I'm being asked to help them scam somebody else. If they word their request appropriately, I'm glad to help. If they can't even be specific enough to ask about the mark's environment, they don't deserve my time in replying. And th . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 9:22:00 PM

>Why is that? Nishu has done some mapping in the past but does not have a >comprehensive understanding of EDI. >Now he wants to interview for an EDI position and would like to prepare for >it. Posting a "do my homework" question the day before the interview does not constitu . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 8:17:00 PM

Thomas > > "I have a job interview tomorrow, please tell me > > what EDI is all about" is > > probably not going to to be answered without some > > rancor. > > Why is that? Nishu has done some mapping in the past > but does not have a comprehensive under . . . Read full entry »


RE: Is anyone else having AS2 issues with GXS?

Posted 5/15/2006 7:38:00 PM

I think the GXS issue must be related strictly to AS2. I checked with our helpdesk, and they have not seen any recent issues with GXS. We have sent GXS several thousand documents in the past 24 hours (not counting the messages we have received), so we would notice any issues immediately. If you're . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 7:01:00 PM

--- Earl Wertheimer < wrote: > "I have a job interview tomorrow, please tell me > what EDI is all about" is > probably not going to to be answered without some > rancor. Why is that? Nishu has done some mapping in the past but does not have a comprehensive understanding . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 6:37:00 PM

Thomas > Perhaps there was another email that I missed, but I > dont understand the rancor towards this request. It > is possible to do mapping and not understand the > business application of a given set of documents. So, > I find Nishu's request a reasonable one. We assume that . . . Read full entry »


Re: Is anyone else having AS2 issues with GXS?

Posted 5/15/2006 6:10:00 PM

Sorry to hear about your problem, but it doesnt surprize me. After all, it's GXS we are talking about here. I wont work at a company that has GXS as a VAN. I avoid a lot of headaches and frustrations that way. BTW, how do you like their customer "service"? -Thomas --- ddaviesnew &l . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 6:04:00 PM

Perhaps there was another email that I missed, but I dont understand the rancor towards this request. It is possible to do mapping and not understand the business application of a given set of documents. So, I find Nishu's request a reasonable one. Obviously english is not Nishu's first languag . . . Read full entry »


Re: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 5:14:00 PM

For fear of being flamed again I want to stand on my soapbox and shout to you all, Yes Michael, thank you for your remarks. I am a professional, I have over 18 years of EDI experience in the automotive sector in both Ansi X12 and UN/Edifact. I had to work my way up from a person who got dumped on . . . Read full entry »


RE: Is anyone else having AS2 issues with GXS?

Posted 5/15/2006 5:08:00 PM

If you are really interested in a change for the better, try IDX2. http://www.idea-esolutions.com/solutions/sol_idx2.php -----Original Message----- From: ddaviesnew They have been down since 10:30 and they can't provide an update as to when the VAN service will be back on line. It's time to l . . . Read full entry »


Is anyone else having AS2 issues with GXS?

Posted 5/15/2006 4:57:00 PM

They have been down since 10:30 and they can't provide an update as to when the VAN service will be back on line. It's time to look elsewhere. Frustrated.   . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 4:45:00 PM

Is this whole thread a joke? I personally find this disturbing. -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Kotoyan, Michael Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:37 PM To: Cc: Subject: RE: [EDI-L] PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE. We all had to start from somewhere, if you want to make yo . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 4:36:00 PM

We all had to start from somewhere, if you want to make your entry into EDI, I recommend you get an ENTRY LEVEL (means 0 or close to 0 experience) mapper job and from there build your way up. How did you do "a lot of maps" in Gentran if you do not know what X12 is? You would also know as . . . Read full entry »


Re: PLEASE HELP !!!!!! ASAP

Posted 5/15/2006 4:20:00 PM

Nishu > can someone tell me where can i get details about x12 - 850 messsage and > edifact - orders and other messsages also. X12 definitions are online at http://www.x12.org/x12org/subcommittees/dev/dpANS_V5.cfm EDIFACT is at http://www.unece.org/trade/untdid/welcome.htm > l . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP !!!!!! ASAP

Posted 5/15/2006 4:13:00 PM

I would think if you've done a lot of mapping that you'd know about the various qualifiers. How do you create a map if you don't know what you're mapping or why? Charlotte Sigmann EDI Administrator Hi-Tech Pharmacal Co., Inc 369 Bayview Avenue Amityville, NY 11701 631-789-8228 ext 4144 This e- . . . Read full entry »


Re: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 2:14:00 PM

>We maintain a large list of EDI links at http://www.spe-edi.com/links.html And Earl's page is IMNSHO the finest collection of links available online. > Many companies, like JCPenney have all their EDI specifications & examples online. True. But I am currently working on Wal-Mart stuff . . . Read full entry »


Re: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 2:11:00 PM

Nishu > give some links which could help me actually moving a step ahead in edi. We maintain a large list of EDI links at http://www.spe-edi.com/links.html Additions & suggestions are always welcome. Many companies, like JCPenney have all their EDI specifications & examples onlin . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/15/2006 12:11:00 PM

When you send an ip packet, there is a source port AND a destination port on just your "outbound" data. A change in terminology probably would have clarified things for everyone. :) Travis- -----Original Message----- From: Earl Wertheimer [mailto: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:58 PM To: . . . Read full entry »


PLEASE HELP !!!!!! ASAP

Posted 5/15/2006 8:34:00 AM

Hi all, thanks to all who have given me something to think and learn. can someone tell me where can i get details about x12 - 850 messsage and edifact - orders and other messsages also. like "BT---bill to " there are so many qualifiers for diffferent segment---segment el . . . Read full entry »


Re: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/15/2006 1:15:00 AM

If it hadn't been for this follow-up I would have thought we were having our collective legs pulled. Glad you at least learned something from the posting, if nothing other than some advice to learn how to use Google. Other than that, you might start with some of the links posted on this Yahoo Gro . . . Read full entry »


RE: NTE Segment in 4010 850????

Posted 5/14/2006 8:40:00 PM

And the fact that the NTE does not appear any longer in the 850 was a result of several DM's I submitted to X12 in the early 1990's which attempted to delete all NTE segments in all transaction sets in which it occurred. The DM's were approved for all but a small one or two transaction sets - I can . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP !!!!!! ASAP

Posted 5/14/2006 7:26:00 PM

The best place for any EDI novice is www.ediiseasy.com. As the name itself speaks for its simplicity of information !!! Regards Jack "Christopher E. Cancilla" < wrote: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=what+is+EDI http://www.ask.com/web?q=what+is+EDI&qsrc=0&am . . . Read full entry »


Re: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/14/2006 9:26:00 AM

thanks all , now i have certainly come to know a lot about this field. i accept my fault of not properly putting my querries. Actually i m working on GENTRAN windows NT 5.0. done a lot of maps but i was restricted to coding part only now i would like to know the real business . . . Read full entry »


RE: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/13/2006 5:46:00 PM

Well, let me see if I can summarize my 15+ years of experience in EDI into a nice neat nugget you can use to call yourself and EDI expert: EDI is the transfer of not-so-standards-based data, between entities that pretend to be cooperating. An EDI tool, like GENTRAN, is then used to convert that dat . . . Read full entry »


Re: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/13/2006 4:36:00 PM

You are applying for something you know nothing about. So what next week you will be applying to be an airline pilot and you don't even know how to get to the airport On 5/12/06, nishu kr < wrote: > > Hi All, > > > Tell me in details about these ...... and links where without . . . Read full entry »


Re: PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/13/2006 2:39:00 PM

> > Tell me in details about these ...... . >>> i m getting a interview for job in edi after two days ...!!!!! You know what you know; you don't know what you don't know. Be honest with the prospective employer. But let me give you some advice... If your prospective employer . . . Read full entry »


RE: Re: [edi_gns] PLEASE HELP !!!!!! ASAP

Posted 5/13/2006 1:12:00 PM

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=what+is+EDI http://www.ask.com/web?q=what+is+EDI&qsrc=0&o=0 Start with the two above web sites. 3-5 years from now you may have a clue. Chris nishu kr wrote: > Hi All, > Tell me in details about these ...... and links where without m . . . Read full entry »


Re: EDI Mapper (X12 to X12)

Posted 5/13/2006 12:28:00 PM

> We have a new app that includes an EDI translator. You must use it to > get EDI data in and out. > > Problem is, it's a bit squirrelly. > > What EDI mappers should we check out to serve as a front end? Don't want > to spend too much. Between 'squirelly', 'want a front end' a . . . Read full entry »


Re: [edi_gns] PLEASE HELP !!!!!! ASAP

Posted 5/13/2006 12:19:00 PM

so you want to be a rock and roll star well listen now to what i say just get an electric guitar just take some time and learn how to play nishu kr wrote: > Hi All, > Tell me in details about these ...... and links where without much > search a clear picture about them can be found i hav . . . Read full entry »


EDI Mapper (X12 to X12)

Posted 5/13/2006 9:24:00 AM

We have a new app that includes an EDI translator. You must use it to get EDI data in and out. Problem is, it's a bit squirrelly. What EDI mappers should we check out to serve as a front end? Don't want to spend too much. TIA, Orin Rehorst   . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/13/2006 5:17:00 AM

...and others have dynamic port allocation (controlled by "other" appliances), you never know which one you're gonna get.... --Forest Gump? Umm no. -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Earl Wertheimer Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:58 PM To: Subject: Re: [EDI-L] The J . . . Read full entry »


PLEASE HELP AS EARLY AS POSSSIBLE.

Posted 5/13/2006 5:04:00 AM

Hi All, Tell me in details about these ...... and links where without much search a clear picture about them can be found i have too less time..... [1] edi, [2] X12 (message--version - -release-- isa/ise --gs/ge--st/se), [3] EDIFACT (message--version - -release-- una,unb/ . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/13/2006 1:51:00 AM

Hey Earl: You may be right for the AS2 software you use, however, for some AS2 software, you configure both ends of the addressing when setting up a trading partner relationship. In other words, the sending and receiving ports can be different. i.e. I tell Walmart to send to http://www.vendorxxx . . . Read full entry »


Re: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/13/2006 12:58:00 AM

Kanchi > I believe the 5 Ports that Canadian retailer mentioned are their outbound > ports (80, 2080, 4080, 5080 & 9080). But, they will be coming to a > particular Port on your system that you tell them to come to. Usually, this Port > is built into the URL itself. No. Their out . . . Read full entry »


Re: <MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/12/2006 10:11:00 PM

I think this is an excellent thread. There are of course no apples to apples comparisons, but this is pretty good metric. I also know for every huge EDI company there are hundreds of smaller ones who won't ever approach. My current project is at one of the aforementioned big companies, (a Lilly . . . Read full entry »


RE: [ubl-dev] an iPod of ebXML

Posted 5/12/2006 7:13:00 PM

James et al, You're right. I got interested in this 10 years or so back when still at Intuit, not least working on online banking, which has some parallels to this space. Since then, I've spoken to David, Jon Bosak and a number of others from this list. I mostly scan/lurk here, but wanted to respo . . . Read full entry »


<JOBS> GXS Consultants Project Work

Posted 5/12/2006 6:25:00 PM

Avatar Partners is seeking candidates that are highly skilled in GXS for contract and project work nationwide. Remote work is OK. Please send resume to Marlo Brooke at or call (714) 845-1111. Thank you!   . . . Read full entry »


EDI community, resource center and (new)Free EDI Standards Browser

Posted 5/12/2006 4:52:00 PM

Ok folks we've put in a ton of work on gathering this information and putting this together; I hope you enjoy it. Our goal is to try making life just a little easier for the professionals that work in the EDI industry. To do this we are offering an on-line community and resource center where profes . . . Read full entry »


<MISC> EDI Metrics

Posted 5/12/2006 3:13:00 PM

Hello- We're gathering some metrics on our data translation and would like to know where we rate among other companies. Simply, how many transactions are processed per month per employee/contractor providing support? A brief description of what business models you support would also be nice. We . . . Read full entry »


RE: NTE Segment in 4010 850????

Posted 5/12/2006 10:56:00 AM

NTE is present in all of the versions i.e, from 3030 to 5020. Thanks, Kanchi "Squillacci, Karen M." To: "Jon Garniss" < "Dickey, Colleen" <kmsquillacci@cvs < . . . Read full entry »


Re: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/12/2006 6:11:00 AM

Kanchi and Ken mentioned basically the same. Bottom line, if they believe they can tell you what holes to pry into your firewall, they need to be hit with the clue stick. It's your prerogative to choose whatever port number you support for incoming HTTP. If you have set up your S/W to listen on ht . . . Read full entry »


<Jobs> Immediate position in Los Angeles for EDI administrator / coordinator

Posted 5/11/2006 10:58:00 PM

We have an immediate opening for an entry-mid level EDI administrator / coordinator in our corporate office located in The Grove/Miracle Mile district of Los Angeles. We are looking for a sharp, detail-oriented individual with strong communication skills to help implement EDI for Samy's Camera, In . . . Read full entry »


RE: NTE Segment in 4010 850????

Posted 5/11/2006 8:36:00 PM

In the 850 document? ANSI X12 or customized dictionary? _____ From: Squillacci, Karen M. [mailto: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:34 PM To: Jon Garniss; Dickey, Colleen; Subject: RE: [EDI-L] NTE Segment in 4010 850???? We currently use v4010 and the NTE does exist within this version. . . . Read full entry »


RE: NTE Segment in 4010 850????

Posted 5/11/2006 8:34:00 PM

But not within the 850. Karen M. Squillacci EDI Administrator CVS/pharmacy (ph) 401.770.3249 (fax) 401.652.0078 www.cvssuppliers.com -----Original Message----- From: Squillacci, Karen M. Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:34 PM To: 'Jon Garniss'; Dickey, Colleen; Subject: RE: [EDI-L] NTE Segment i . . . Read full entry »


RE: NTE Segment in 4010 850????

Posted 5/11/2006 8:33:00 PM

We currently use v4010 and the NTE does exist within this version. Karen M. Squillacci EDI Administrator CVS/pharmacy (ph) 401.770.3249 (fax) 401.652.0078 www.cvssuppliers.com -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: Behalf Of Jon Garniss Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:31 PM To: Dickey, Colle . . . Read full entry »


RE: NTE Segment in 4010 850????

Posted 5/11/2006 8:30:00 PM

I'm glad to know that I'm not going crazy. I thought that was the case, but I wanted to have all my bases covered. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Dickey, Colleen [mailto: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:26 PM To: Jon Garniss; Subject: RE: [EDI-L] NTE Segment in 4010 850???? It looks li . . . Read full entry »


RE: NTE Segment in 4010 850????

Posted 5/11/2006 8:25:00 PM

It looks like the NTE segment was removed from the 850 somewhere between versions 3030 and 3070. It does not exist in 4010. Colleen -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Jon Garniss Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 1:09 PM To: Subject: [EDI-L] NTE Segment in 4010 850???? Hi everyon . . . Read full entry »


RE: NTE Segment in 4010 850????

Posted 5/11/2006 8:16:00 PM

Jon, NTE is defined in 4010 and used in 81 (if my count is correct) different transaction sets, however it is not used in the 850. Best regards, Bill Chessman Inovis(tm) -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Jon Garniss Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 1:09 PM To: Subject: [EDI-L] . . . Read full entry »


NTE Segment in 4010 850????

Posted 5/11/2006 8:08:00 PM

Hi everyone, I have a trading partner who insists on sending the NTE segment in their 850 V 4010. I look in my data dictionary and the NTE segment doesn't exist in any reference I have. Am I wrong or is the NTE not in the 850 for v 4010? Thanks, Jon   . . . Read full entry »


Re: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 7:46:00 PM

> > I know that GS1 and other organizations, like GISB/NAESB specify ports; > however it is my personal opinion that ports should be part of an > agreement between trading partners and not part of a protocol. I also believe that the DTMF tones between companies should be separately agr . . . Read full entry »


Oracle EDI capabilities

Posted 5/11/2006 6:38:00 PM

Does the Oracle 10g application server product with B2B integration and thee Oracle EDI adapter have the capability to accept any EDI transactions from the Vendor (Source) without a third party (non- Oracle) EDI translator. If the answer to this question is yes, then can the X.12 EDI 811 (Consolid . . . Read full entry »


<Jobs> Position open greater Chicago area EDI Analyst with Extol

Posted 5/11/2006 5:51:00 PM

We have a position open in the greater Chicago area for an EDI Analyst with very strong communication skills and a background working heavily with trading partners. They must have a solid AS400 and Extol work history, this is an ASAP need as most jobs are. It is perm and does not offer relo so the . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 5:34:00 PM

I know that GS1 and other organizations, like GISB/NAESB specify ports; however it is my personal opinion that ports should be part of an agreement between trading partners and not part of a protocol. Security is the responsibility of the organization allowing inbound data to their enterprise. Th . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 5:30:00 PM

Correct. Shan -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Dale Marthaller Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:33 AM To: Ken Persing; Subject: RE: [EDI-L] The Joys of AS2 As Ken and others have mentioned you and your trading partner do not need to match receiving port numbers. I.e. you c . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 5:23:00 PM

I would have to guess that the trading partner in question has configured their firewall to only pass outbound traffic to that list of ports. Dale Marthaller (604) 461-6779 -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Travis Truax Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:14 AM To: 'Earl Werthe . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 5:21:00 PM

Jon > Speaking of the trading partner in Canada, I am wondering why Drummond > Certification is so important to them? I can do AS2 that follows the > protocol, yet because my software is not "Drummond Certified", they will > not allow us to use our software. > > What's . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 5:18:00 PM

Jon, You must have missed all the previous rants. It all just boils down to $$$. If you look hard enough, maybe you too can find "nothing at all" that you can charge $15K for! :) Travis- -----Original Message----- From: Jon Garniss [mailto: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:41 AM To: Da . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 5:13:00 PM

This sounds really backwards to me as well. *Almost never* has anyone cared what tcp source port was used to send anything. The destination port is where it's at.... Travis- -----Original Message----- From: Earl Wertheimer [mailto: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:01 PM To: Gait Boxman; Subject: . . . Read full entry »


ebXML approval retrospective

Posted 5/11/2006 5:01:00 PM

All, Anybody else notice that today, May 11, 2006, is the 5th anniversary of the approval of the original ebXML project? I see that the chairman of the original project (Klaus-Dieter Naujok) has put up some retrospective commentaries on his blog page at http://www.klauskorner.com/MyBlog/MyBlog. . . . Read full entry »


Re: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 5:00:00 PM

Gait > what's the problem? They are going to listen for HTTP connections on 80, > 2080, 4080, 5080 & 9080, you just pick one or > two depending on how many you can configure. > As for HTTP connections to your software, you tell them on what port > you're listening. > Normally . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 4:53:00 PM

When Drummond certifies a program, they test it against all the other certified programs to make sure they can communicate, exchange and decipher each others MDNs (synchronous and asynchronous). Presumably, all the folks such as yourself who don't use Certified Software are having a terrible time . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 4:41:00 PM

Speaking of the trading partner in Canada, I am wondering why Drummond Certification is so important to them? I can do AS2 that follows the protocol, yet because my software is not "Drummond Certified", they will not allow us to use our software. What's the big deal with Drummond Certifi . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 4:33:00 PM

As Ken and others have mentioned you and your trading partner do not need to match receiving port numbers. I.e. you can receive on 4080 and they on 5080. Dale Marthaller (604) 461-6779 -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Ken Persing Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:50 AM To: S . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 4:01:00 PM

I'm sorry but I'm a bit confused by your question. The port number is determined and set on the receiving side and as such you supply this port number to your trading partner who includes it in the connection profile to your machine. I'm assuming that the five ports they have listed are at their en . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 3:21:00 PM

Hello Earl, Most AS2 Receivers (at least ours is :) are based on top of existing Webserver or Servlet Engine Infrastructure. So you can easyly configure the IIS/Apache/Tomcat Container to listen on multiple Ports. Actually it is good if you can configure multiple Listeners in the Software to sep . . . Read full entry »


Re: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 2:15:00 PM

Earl, I don't think there will be any issue with these port numbers. I believe the 5 Ports that Canadian retailer mentioned are their outbound ports (80, 2080, 4080, 5080 & 9080). But, they will be coming to a particular Port on your system that you tell them to come to. Usually, this Port is . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 1:50:00 PM

Are you saying that the partner is telling you what port you need to listen on? Normally, the partner tells you what port you are supposed to send to you and you tell them what port you listen on. Ken -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: On Behalf Of Earl Wertheimer Sent: Wednesday, May 10 . . . Read full entry »


Re: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 1:33:00 PM

Setting up multiple receive ports should not be a difficult task, depending on your software. With the Free AS2 Connector (www.freeas2.com), you can host the application in IIS and easily configure multiple receive ports. If BTrade doesn't support this, you could potentially use the Free AS2 conn . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 7:20:00 AM

>How do you accommodate multiple AS2 ports? In addition to a port redirect, as you mention, the alternative is to set up your AS2 software to listen on multiple ports. How this is done obviously depends on the AS2 software you use. In a software like webMethods, this is a very simple task. Btr . . . Read full entry »


RE: The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 5:39:00 AM

Vijay > Another solution would be to change the existing TP to the same port too “ will > probably require to notify the first trading partner of the change but will make > maintenance much easier and simpler. Yes, but that starts to be a problem when you have many AS2 partners. What if . . . Read full entry »


The Joys of AS2

Posted 5/11/2006 2:28:00 AM

A large retail chain up here in Canada is moving to AS2. They have listed 5 useable ports - 80, 2080, 4080, 5080 & 9080. They are also requiring Drummond Group certification ;-( I looked at a list of our existing AS2 clients, and only 20% of them use one of these ports. The rest use other p . . . Read full entry »



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