Re: Need some Advice

Hi Mike. Its not that they think they are good. They know its bad code but
dont want to change that. Which is fine by me. But they want me to code
that way too..that is where i had a bit of an objection as i will really be
hating myself if i did what they do.
Vasu


On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 10:26 AM Michael Kay mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx <
xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Try to persuade them to get an external consultant in - someone who they
> respect (and who you respect) to review their XSLT coding practices. You
> can't persuade them to change yourself, they clearly don't regard you as a
> fount of knowledge even if you are - but you might persuade them that it's
> worth reviewing what they do against external best practice.
>
> Reminds me of the battle I had in my first programming job persuading
> people to abandon GOTO statements. Fancy academic nonsense, they thought it
> was, this guy has been spoilt by too much time in college.
>
> Michael Kay
> Saxonica
>
> On 4 Feb 2022, at 18:01, Mailing Lists Mail daktapaal@xxxxxxxxx <
> xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
> I need some advice from you all. I have been working with XSLT for last 15
> years and I have now come across a contract opportunity with a financial
> firm in Australia and I am like weeks into it. I was told that the clients
> are bound with XSLT1.0 and XSLT 2.0 does not work. I was wondering why it
> does not work. I asked if they used MS parser etc. and nothing of that sort
> is happening. When I looked into the code i figured why xslt2.0 wont work.
> it wont because of the wrong coding. xml elements are coded as text using
> &lt; and &gt; and the text  is not in the xsl:text and  xpaths are  all
> unbelievable . No one with even 1 year of exp with xslt will even fathom
> such xpaths. there are circular xpaths, no keys .. no variables. using the
> same complicated xpaths over and over again in consecutive lines of code.
> and its all a mess. Super mess and it makes me cry.  So messed up that you
> can not format the code because you will break the spacing in the text
> nodes..The reasoning.? The one who did the initial work was a contractor
> who did not know Xslt.
>
> part 2 of the story..
> I started coding and I have a muscle memory of doing the things in a
> certain way ( hopefully the right way ).. I was pulled in into a meeting
> saying that my code is messed up and that I am doing things the way that is
> against the coding standards practice of company .. every line of the code
> was changed to how they do it/// . keys removed, xsl:text removed, and
> every nightmare i imagine was asked to make and by me. I checked in the
> code now they way they do, knowing very well that it is messy..
>
> I am pulled everyday and told that my XSLT coding is not correct. I have
> always stood as the XSLT conscience and people have learnt from me. Not
> blowing trumpets of myself, but the current situation is very basic very
> very basic. I did not do these mistakes on my first job with no experience.
>
> What do I do??
> 1.Resign and let them be as they want to ?
> 2. continue and do the coding the way they want and hopefully I will get
> used to it in a couple of months and I suffer until then
>
> My heart breaks here to see the attitude that someone is holding my hand
> to make me do bad things..... The attitude is clear. "you shall do as we
> say". You can chuck your XSLT coding practices..
>
> Makes me remember a contractor who came home to cut trees. I asked him to
> do it a certain way and he said he wouldn't do it even if I gave him 2000
> GBP.
>
> Please advice.
> Dr. Tapaal Dakota
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