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At 2006-06-04 23:31 -0600, M. David Peterson wrote:
Thanks for your follow-up! I truly appreciate this information :) Glad to help. On 6/4/06, G. Ken Holman <gkholman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:At 2006-06-03 19:06 -0600, M. David Peterson wrote: If not next week, when is your next session/where?
Details linked from our home page: http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/s/ I also owe Wendell and Tommie a visit...
There is no backwards path from PDF to FO.
I do see "Save as XSLT for XSL-FO..." being helpful ... then you could use Word as a composition/layout tool for arbitrary XML, using placebo data. I have two freely-downloadable environments for annotating result instances (such as XSL-FO or HTML) with cues for processing input XML documents. These have worked well for two generations of UBL stylesheets, where with so many stylesheets to develop I had to create an environment to synthesize XSLT stylesheets rather than write them by hand. A "Save as XSLT for XSL-FO..." option would write out an annotated XSL-FO instance which could then be input to either the LiterateXSLT or ResultXSLT environments from our web site. Obviously with native, out of the box support, there's not a lot of folks who would even consider other options.... But if this presented an opportunity to develop such a plug in as to help promote the use of FO, then it seemed like it was at very least worth traveling down this road to find out. :{)} So much to do ... so little time ... That's where I was attempting to take this, although it was more from a "is there a connection I need to be making or am I simply connecting the "guilt by association" dots and not the actual "this makes good, solid sense to go down this road a bit further."
My thought process was along the lines of connecting citations support -- which, as mentioned, is something Bruce, myself, and a few other folks have been trying to figure out how to connect Liveclipboard and the GlobalClip extension I developed a while back with citations such that when you copy from an online doc, all of the meta-data that is related (in regards to citation information) is embedded into the information that is passed to Liveclipboard as part of an XML package, to then paste into Word and have it magically placed into all of the right places. Given the connection between the world of citations and publishing, the "Office Open XML format + XSL-FO = final PDF ready for online or print publication" idea popped into my head when Brian posted the Adobe PDF announcement on Friday.
Same would be true for OOX+annotations ... But with the new obligations I've taken on with my standards volunteering and my recent health challenges I am not able to take the time to explore that any further. Gotta pay the bills and plan for unexpected downtime when thrown the next curve ball in life. If nothing else, hopefully this might help grease some gears, and get folks such as yourself thinking about whether or not opportunity exists, and if/how to act on this.
To me a Word document would be written for very different reasons than an XML document targeted for formatting with XSL-FO. Word is great for bespoke documents, XML+XSLT+XSL-FO is great for multiple XML documents with the same layout ... it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to write custom XML+XSLT+XSL-FO for a scenario where the layout and content of every document is different.
But if someone needs XML+XSLT+XSL-FO=PDF for arbitrary XML and they need a tool to give them the XSLT+XSL-FO bits, then I think there is a role for some automation to come into play. So...very...much...to...experiment...and...play...with... Must...keep...up...revenues... . . . . . . . . . . . . Ken -- Registration open for XSLT/XSL-FO training: Wash.,DC 2006-06-12/16 Also for XSL-FO/XSLT training: Minneapolis, MN 2006-07-31/08-04 Also for XML/XSLT/XSL-FO/UBL training: Varo,Denmark 06-09-25/10-06 World-wide corporate, govt. & user group UBL, XSL, & XML training. G. Ken Holman mailto:gkholman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Crane Softwrights Ltd. http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/s/ Box 266, Kars, Ontario CANADA K0A-2E0 +1(613)489-0999 (F:-0995) Male Cancer Awareness Aug'05 http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/s/bc Legal business disclaimers: http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/legal
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