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Re: Lightweight XSLT based web framework
Subject: Re: Lightweight XSLT based web framework
From: cgray <cgray@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:56:27 -0700
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Hello,
I have been looking for a substitute for Cocoon as well, as I became
quite fond of generating xml based web pages through the sitemap in Cocoon.
For something capable and and smaller in size, you might want to check
out Alex Milowski's smallx pipelining project.
See:
https://smallx.dev.java.net/
From the overview on the project home page:
"Smallx is a library and set of tools that is being developed to process
XML infosets. It has two distinct features in that the infoset
implementation allows streaming of documents and that processing of
infosets can be accomplished using a concept called pipelines. The
library contains a full compliment of technologies--include XPath and XSLT.
Pipelines provide the ability to chain together different components
that perform different tasks to process a XML document. Some of these
tasks might be decision points in the processing while other might
transform the input (e.g. XSLT). All components in the pipeline have the
ability to stream the infoset it they so choose.
The key difference of this code over others is that it allows streaming
of infosets to be mixed in with non-streamed document-based processing.
This allows large data sets to be processed in a minimal amount of
memory while allowing traditional technologies like XSLT to still be used."
Regards,
Carol
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:07:44 +0300
To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Emmanouil Batsis <Emmanouil.Batsis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Lightweight XSLT based web framework
Message-ID: <430EBFC0.5070302@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Peter Gerstbach wrote:
I know (and like) cocoon very much, but I need a more simple and
smaller system. All I want to have is the possibility to transform XML
with XSLT, caching of the results and maybe a system that generates
the site-navigation.
That is not a simple system ;-)
An integrated CMS would be nice but is not very important.
Apache Lenya, a CMS on top of Cocoon is exactly what you describe. It
will take you half an hour to install on a servlet container and go
through the tutorial. I'd reccomend giving a shot in 1.2.x (1.4 is
unstable and may give you wrong impressions).
hth,
Manos
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Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:23:52 +0200
To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Piotr Kopszak <kopszak@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Lightweight XSLT based web framework
Message-ID: <20050826092352.GA1984@xxxxxxxxxx>
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 10:07:44AM +0300, Emmanouil Batsis wrote:
Peter Gerstbach wrote:
Apache Lenya, a CMS on top of Cocoon is exactly what you describe.
Another, not so lightweight but not terribly difficult to use either, choice
might be Silva. It's written in Python.
http://www.infrae.com/products/silva
Piotr
-- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw
-----------------------------> http://kopszak.mnw.art.pl/
http://www.magnatune.com/artists/altri_stromenti
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:45:32 +0200
To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: Peter Gerstbach
<peter.gerstbach@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Lightweight XSLT based
web framework Message-ID: <793f16e80508260445f1b1e36@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2005/8/26, Emmanouil Batsis <Emmanouil.Batsis@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
Peter Gerstbach wrote:
=20
>I know (and like) cocoon very much, but I need a more simple and
>smaller system. All I want to have is the possibility to transform XML
>with XSLT, caching of the results and maybe a system that generates
>the site-navigation.
=20
That is not a simple system ;-)
Well, I think it is. You just have to parse the URI, find the
corresponding XML, and invoke a transformation. The result must be
cached somewhere (ok, this caching can be very complex). For the
navigation another transformation is needed, inserting some links that
are read from another central XML file.
That's it! I think it should be possible to write such a system within
a day. But why to reinvent the wheel?
=20
>An integrated CMS would be nice but is not very important.
>
>
=20
Apache Lenya, a CMS on top of Cocoon is exactly what you describe. It
will take you half an hour to install on a servlet container and go
through the tutorial. I'd reccomend giving a shot in 1.2.x (1.4 is
unstable and may give you wrong impressions).
Yes, of course, Cocoon and Lenya are great. Cocoon provides much more
than I need. I'm sure that my requirements can be meet with a simpler
system (described above) that does not need a 30MB installation
(Lenya).
Peter
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Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:13:34 +0200
To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Piotr Kopszak <kopszak@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Lightweight XSLT based web framework
Message-ID: <20050826131334.GA6746@xxxxxxxxxx>
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 01:45:32PM +0200, Peter Gerstbach wrote:
2005/8/26, Emmanouil Batsis <Emmanouil.Batsis@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Peter Gerstbach wrote:
>
> >I know (and like) cocoon very much, but I need a more simple and
> >smaller system. All I want to have is the possibility to transform XML
> >with XSLT, caching of the results and maybe a system that generates
> >the site-navigation.
>
> That is not a simple system ;-)
Well, I think it is. You just have to parse the URI, find the
corresponding XML, and invoke a transformation. The result must be
cached somewhere (ok, this caching can be very complex). For the
navigation another transformation is needed, inserting some links that
are read from another central XML file.
I was generating my website using xsltproc for last couple of years
from a Website DocBook xml files and it is easy, indeed. You can write
a script which would upload resulting html to a server in a minute. No
need for any special programs.
Piotr
-- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw
-----------------------------> http://kopszak.mnw.art.pl/
http://www.magnatune.com/artists/altri_stromenti
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