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RE: encoding woes: ISO-8859-1 vs. UTF-8

Subject: RE: encoding woes: ISO-8859-1 vs. UTF-8
From: Xiaocun Xu <xiaocunxu@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 06:42:14 -0700 (PDT)
hex 93
Hi, Michael:

  Thanks for your reply.

> Perhaps you were using some proprietary Microsoft
> 8-bit encoding that
> includes these two characters?
> 
> Rather than showing us what the CSV file looks like
> on your screen
> (which depends entirely on the software used to
> display it) it might
> help to show us what it looks like in hex.

Good idea.  I opened it in TextPad in Hex mode, those
two characters in CSV are Hex 93 and 94 respectively. 
Checked code page, both are in C1 Control code page,
hex 93 is SET TRANSMIT STATE and 94 is CANCEL
CHARACTER.

> You can't be using ISO-8859-1 to encode the
> characters ? and
> ? 
> 
> ISO-8859-1 can only encode the characters in the
> range 0-255.

That's what I thought as well.  How did saxon
converted those two control chars into the proper
encoding for &#8220; and &#8221; even though the input
XML was marked as encoding in ISO-8859-1?  I was fully
expecting the import would fail, but somehow it was
successful.

> > B. Export into CSV
> >   1. pull from MSSQL7 to proprietary XML: "oLogo"
> >   2. saxon convert proprietary XML to CSV:
> exception
> > org.xml.sax.SAXException: Output character not
> > available in this encoding (decimal 8220)
> >   Why going one way it works and not the other?
> 
> When you use 
> 
> <xsl:output method="text" encoding="iso-8859-1"/>
> 
> you can only output the characters available in
> iso-8859-1, namely the
> XML characters in the range 0-255.

Good point.  For export output, I changed encoding to
UTF-8, that seems to have resolved the problem, now
export is successful.  Open the exported CSV in Hex
editor, those two chars are shown as Hex 93/94,
respectively.

Thanks,
Xiaocun

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