Re: page-number-citation

Dear Mr. Pawson,

Thank you for your clear explanation. I had tried to explain the
problem to my colleague. 

> I have Japanese characters on my machine, but I don't understand them.

It was my mistake.

> 
> In my source document I have 10 entries per page,
> In groups of (approximately) 4.
> 
> e.g.
> page 100
> 
> Alpha
>     .....
> Alpha
>    .....
> Beta
>   ......
> Beta
>   .....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I want to make an index to that alpha only appears once in the index.
> the index will show:
> 
>    index
> 
> Alpha .........................page 100
> Beta ..........................page 100
> 
> I need to exclude the 'repetitions' of the names which are the same,
> and which are on the same page.
> 

Thanks. I understood your needs.

> Sorry if I was not clear.
> 
> I solved it by selecting the 'first' Alpha (in the example above) and
> in the index, rather than all of them.
> I think this is an issue that should be solved in the XSL-FO recommendation.
> 
> Regards DaveP
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tokushige Kobayashi [mailto:koba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 30 January 2002 12:10
> > To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re:  page-number-citation
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 問題は、1ページに同じ索引語が多数回現れた場合だと思います。
> > 
> > 索引
> > index .. <fo:page-number-citation 
> > ref-id="1"/>,<fo:page-number-citation 
> > ref-id="2"/>,<fo:page-number-citation 
> > ref-id="3"/>,<fo:page-number-citation ref-id="4"/>
> > 本文
> > 
> > Page 100
> > <fo:block id="1">index</fo:block> ....
> > .....<fo:block id="2">index</fo:block>
> > ............<fo:block id="3">index</fo:block>
> > 
> > Page 101
> > <fo:block id="4">index</fo:block> ....
> > 
> > 
> > となると、索引は、
> > 
> > index 100,100,100,101
> > 
> > となるので奇麗でない、といっていると思います。
> > hollmanさんの解決策は、
> > 
> > >Would someone confirm please, its not possible
> > >to generate an index of the form
> > >
> > ><fo:block> index entry <fo:page-number-citation ref-id="abd"/>,
> > >         <fo:page-number-citation ref-id="abd"/>
> > ></fo:block>
> > >
> > >Such that repeated page-numbers are not duplicated?
> > 
> > Yes, this is not possible in XSLFO 1.0.
> > 
> > >I have a number of 'entries' per page, and the generated index
> > >looks ..... not nice.
> > 
> > I'm working on indexing my electronic publications, and my 
> > methodology is 
> > becoming fairly extensive (which is why it isn't completed yet):
> > 
> >    (1) - format printable XML markup in the PDF where attribute
> >          the visible markup of attributes includes the formatted
> >          page numbers ... e.g.:
> >            &lt;entry page="<page-number-citation 
> > ref-id="abd"/>"&gt;...
> >    (2) - extract the text from the PDF of the index as a well-
> >          formed XML document ... e.g.:
> >            <entry page="12">...
> >    (3) - run a stylesheet that interprets the page numbers and
> >          does the reduction of the page ranges, including sorting,
> >          index levels, etc.
> >    (4) - format the page ranges into the formatted index
> >    (5) - delete the XML index from the PDF
> >    (6) - append the formatted index to the PDF
> > 
> > I've determined from my tests that the above methodology 
> > works ... it is 
> > just a matter of finding the time to do it all in my 
> > publishing environment.
> > 
> > I plan to include the methodology as an annex in a future 
> > edition of the 
> > XSLFO book.
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > 次の人は、FOPの実装をしている人のようです。
> > 
> > "W. Eliot Kimber" <eliot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > At 2002-01-29 14:53 +0000, DPawson@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > >to generate an index ...
> > > > >Such that repeated page-numbers are not duplicated?
> > > Has anyone approached this problem using extension functions?
> > 
> > I don't know about ready-to-use-solution, but there is some
> > need articulated regularly. Look at
> >   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-user&m=101232223805802&w=2
> > The idea was to place extension elements where indexed items
> > appear, which would write a XML file with page references
> > during normal PDF generation. This file will be used to generate
> > the index using techniques already discussed here. Something
> > like the TEX approach.
> > Perhaps i'll get some time to actually implement a sample in FOP.
> > 
> > Regards
> > J.Pietschmann
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "G.> At 2002-01-29 14:53 +0000, DPawson@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > "G.> >Would someone confirm please, its not possible
> > "G.> >to generate an index of the form
> > "G.> >
> > "G.> ><fo:block> index entry <fo:page-number-citation ref-id="abd"/>,
> > "G.> >         <fo:page-number-citation ref-id="abd"/>
> > "G.> ></fo:block>
> > "G.> >
> > "G.> >Such that repeated page-numbers are not duplicated?
> > "G.> 
> > "G.> Yes, this is not possible in XSLFO 1.0.
> > "G.> 
> > "G.> >I have a number of 'entries' per page, and the generated index
> > "G.> >looks ..... not nice.
> > "G.> 
> > "G.> I'm working on indexing my electronic publications, and 
> > my methodology is 
> > "G.> becoming fairly extensive (which is why it isn't completed yet):
> > "G.> 
> > "G.>    (1) - format printable XML markup in the PDF where attribute
> > "G.>          the visible markup of attributes includes the formatted
> > "G.>          page numbers ... e.g.:
> > "G.>            &lt;entry page="<page-number-citation 
> > ref-id="abd"/>"&gt;...
> > "G.>    (2) - extract the text from the PDF of the index as a well-
> > "G.>          formed XML document ... e.g.:
> > "G.>            <entry page="12">...
> > "G.>    (3) - run a stylesheet that interprets the page numbers and
> > "G.>          does the reduction of the page ranges, 
> > including sorting,
> > "G.>          index levels, etc.
> > "G.>    (4) - format the page ranges into the formatted index
> > "G.>    (5) - delete the XML index from the PDF
> > "G.>    (6) - append the formatted index to the PDF
> > "G.> 
> > "G.> I've determined from my tests that the above methodology 
> > works ... it is 
> > "G.> just a matter of finding the time to do it all in my 
> > publishing environment.
> > "G.> 
> > "G.> I plan to include the methodology as an annex in a 
> > future edition of the 
> > "G.> XSLFO book.
> > "G.> 
> > "G.> I hope this helps.
> > "G.> 
> > "G.> .......................... Ken
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