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Re: Towards XML 2.0

  • From: Andrew Welch <andrew.j.welch@gmail.com>
  • To: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>
  • Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 13:18:08 +0000

Re:  Towards XML 2.0
On 9 December 2010 11:12, David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 10:03, Andrew Welch wrote:
>> The typical problems that I see that frustrate people to point of
>> hating XML are just because they've treated it as a string - encoding
>> issues, broken namespaces, lone amperstands and left angle brackets
>> etc.  What appears to be a simple change to the file (say using a
>> regex) breaks it completely, and for encoding issues this can be a
>> real pain to track down.
>> ...
>> The 'next xml' needs to be treatable as a string... JSON is just a
>> string, right?
> Clearly I'm missing something,

No I'm just not making my point very well... :)

> because I can't see how  lone < and & messing
> up an XML document is really any different from mismatched { or [ messing up
> json?  I can see a qualitative difference between xml and html parsing,
> where html (especially html5 flavoured html) is designed to silently recover
> from more or less any arbitrary rubbish thrown at it, but json, like
> javascript (and xml) has stricter parsing rules doesn't it? and so
> consequently requires some more care in construction.

If it was just a string, you could construct the xml by concatenating
strings and then write it to disk, job done, no problems.

Currently you have to use a proper serialiser (because of namespaces,
encoding, escaping etc), and doing that requires a fair amount of
effort - you have to use (and learn) a library of some kind and write
lines and lines of code... all of which baffles and frustrates a
non-xml dev when all they want to do is create some simple xml.

Andrew Welch

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