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I agree that 'tagging' stuff seems a bit vulgar but it also gets across the message to those that need said message. I make a point of showing the difference between element and tag in conversation regarding XML because those two terms have specific different meanings. But how are 'to markup' or 'to tag' (in the sense of XML/HTML) different? Or is it just a sensibility thing? -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Aleyne Lapeyre [mailto:dalapeyre@m...] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:38 PM To: xml-dev@l... Subject: Re: Is "markup" a noun or a verb? Do you "markup data" or "wrap data in tags"? "Preferred" is such a slippery word. In my teaching experience (no preference implied): >1. I marked up the data. - is the way the professionals in this industry would say it. It sounds fine to most of us, but also confuses many novices, even copyeditors. >2, 3, and 4 are OK, but nobody talks like this in real life IMO >5, 6, 7 have never been heard by me in the real world. I also don't like them much (maybe I do have a preference after all) The great unwashed (i.e. professionals in some other business than this Markup stuff) would, I think, mostly agree with Mark, they "tag" their data. Overlap geeks have been heard to call it "applying inline markup" ---------- Yes, Steve, I agree that "to mark up" is a verb, but even "markup" the noun has problems. When Balisage wanted a subtitle to tell people what the conference was actually about, we chose "Balisage:The Markup Conference". Sounded good to us, because we wanted to express that it was more than "Balisage: The XML Conference" since it was perfectly fine to talk about microformats, SGML, non-XML-based mashups and clouds, out-of-line-markup, LMNL, etc. But it left a lot of people wondering what the conference WAS about, and we have had some very odd email reactions and a bunch of business types who do not view the UBL and other tag-related things that they do as "markup". Markup is for text, not data is some eyes. Odd old world. --dal -- ====================================================================== Deborah Aleyne Lapeyre mailto:dalapeyre@m... Mulberry Technologies, Inc. http://www.mulberrytech.com 17 West Jefferson Street Direct Phone: 301/315-9633 Suite 207 Phone: 301/315-9631 Rockville, MD 20850 Fax: 301/315-8285 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mulberry Technologies: A Consultancy Specializing in XML, XSL, & SGML ====================================================================== _______________________________________________________________________ XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS to support XML implementation and development. To minimize spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ Or unsubscribe: xml-dev-unsubscribe@l... subscribe: xml-dev-subscribe@l... List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1668 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 6:56 AM
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