Re: Is "markup" a noun or a verb? Do you "markup data" or "wr
I guess I am interested in this thread because I recently made a comment on a blog questioning tag's meaning: "regarding docx, I don't see how a flat list of elements (what does tagged with XML mean?) in document order will help poinpoint data." here: http://marklogic.blogspot.com/2008/09/forbescom-interview-corporate-pack.html -Rob On Sep 12, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Mark Shellenberger wrote: > I agree that 'tagging' stuff seems a bit vulgar but it also gets > across the > message to those that need said message. I make a point of showing > the > difference between element and tag in conversation regarding XML > because > those two terms have specific different meanings. > > But how are 'to markup' or 'to tag' (in the sense of XML/HTML) > different? > Or is it just a sensibility thing? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deborah Aleyne Lapeyre [mailto:dalapeyre@m...] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:38 PM > To: xml-dev@l... > Subject: Re: Is "markup" a noun or a verb? Do you "markup > data" or > "wrap data in tags"? > > "Preferred" is such a slippery word. In my teaching experience > (no preference implied): > >> 1. I marked up the data. - is the way the professionals in > this industry would say it. It sounds fine to most of us, but also > confuses many novices, even copyeditors. > >> 2, 3, and 4 are OK, but nobody talks like this in real life IMO > >> 5, 6, 7 have never been heard by me in the real world. I also > don't like them much (maybe I do have a preference after all) > > The great unwashed (i.e. professionals in some other business > than this Markup stuff) would, I think, mostly agree with Mark, > they "tag" their data. > > Overlap geeks have been heard to call it > "applying inline markup" > > ---------- > Yes, Steve, I agree that "to mark up" is a verb, but > even "markup" the noun has problems. > > When Balisage wanted a subtitle to tell people what the > conference was actually about, we chose > "Balisage:The Markup Conference". > Sounded good to us, because we wanted to express that it was more > than "Balisage: The XML Conference" since it was perfectly > fine to talk about microformats, SGML, non-XML-based mashups > and clouds, out-of-line-markup, LMNL, etc. But it left a lot of > people wondering what the conference WAS about, and we have had > some very odd email reactions and a bunch of business types > who do not view the UBL and other tag-related things that > they do as "markup". Markup is for text, not data is some eyes. > Odd old world. > > --dal > > -- > ====================================================================== > Deborah Aleyne Lapeyre mailto:dalapeyre@m... > Mulberry Technologies, Inc. http://www.mulberrytech.com > 17 West Jefferson Street Direct Phone: 301/315-9633 > Suite 207 Phone: 301/315-9631 > Rockville, MD 20850 Fax: 301/315-8285 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mulberry Technologies: A Consultancy Specializing in XML, XSL, & SGML > ====================================================================== > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS > to support XML implementation and development. To minimize > spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. > > [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ > Or unsubscribe: xml-dev-unsubscribe@l... > subscribe: xml-dev-subscribe@l... > List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1668 - Release Date: > 9/12/2008 > 6:56 AM > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS > to support XML implementation and development. To minimize > spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. > > [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ > Or unsubscribe: xml-dev-unsubscribe@l... > subscribe: xml-dev-subscribe@l... > List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php >
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