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> > > > > ESR accepts the worst claims uncritically: > I.e. He's as cynical as Bryan and I. > Well part of my cynicism is also based on having had to work with both formats and while ODF is not actually something I think is beautiful it is not markup hell either. It is a somewhat irritating format that I have a lot of aesthetic differences with but the reasons for the design I can understand. The reasons for OOXML design I can't understand. This inclines me to prejudice - a technical prejudice against the format inclines me to questioning the ethical motives of those pushing it (I guess this is pretty illogical). My personal feeling is that a good office format will end up coming out of neither of these two, but out of something like the compound documents standardization effort. My position is also made weirder by the fact that my current employer is an OOXML supporter, and in fact would have joined the ISO process of their own free will, and voted for standardization, if it had been proposed as a good thing to do in any strategy meeting. For this reason I can without cynicism believe that some organizations, if not the greater number of them, have done exactly this. For my employer there are good reasons to vote for OOXML. So I think it is reasonable that organizations join and vote their interest. I don't think it is reasonable that organizations join and vote someone else's interest under various degrees of incitement, and I believe this has happened. Cheers, Bryan Rasmussen
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