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[XML-DEV Mailing List Archive Home] [By Thread] [By Date] [Recent Entries] [Reply To This Message] Re: Avoding a repeat of W3C XSD - was Re: Is Web 2.0
 The problem may well not be the process and a process based solution may not fix it. The simple fact is by its nature, the W3C is spending a lot of time in experimental areas. They are blazing new ground, and that's a good thing. However any pioneering organization like the W3C is likely to have at least as many failures as successes, probably more. Clearly the W3C has had both. While we can tweak the process here and there to try to make success a little more likely, I think no matter what process is used there are sure to be some truly spectacular failures. Sometimes when you reach for the sky, you fall back to earth with a pretty resounding thud. But that doesn't mean we should stop reaching. Sometimes we do make it, and I think the W3C's successes are more important than its failures. Perhaps all we need to change is the attitude and belief that a W3C spec cannot be allowed to fail. In effect, it is extremely hard for the W3C to recognize failure and either not recommend or unrecommend a bad spec. In fact, I can think of only one case in which a major spec effort failed to produce a final spec. (xpointer scheme) and even that was only a partial failure. Several other parts of XPointer did advance to Rec. I can think of numerous other cases where the problems with a spec were blatant, obvious, and actively acknowledged by the community, in which probably half of the people considering the spec believed it to be fundamentally flawed, and yet it advanced to REC anyway (Namespaces, schemas, XForms). In the first two cases, I think experience has shown the doubters to be correct. The jury's still out on the third. I can only think of one case where, to my recollection, there wasn't a lot of early dissent, but experience proved the spec to be badly flawed anyway (DOM). The W3C is not the only organization with this problem, of course. The JCP also has some issues, as does OASIS. In all cases the problem seems to be a failure to acknowledge outsider resistance and an unwillingness to allow a spec to die. In my experience, if half the community is telling you a spec is good, and half is saying it's not, then the half deriding the spec is far more likely to be correct and their opinions need to be given more weight when deciding whether or not to go to REC. -- Elliotte Rusty Harold elharo@m... XML in a Nutshell 3rd Edition Just Published! http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/xian3/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0596007647/cafeaulaitA/ref=nosim 
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