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 In article <abd24ff9f23d1848108f9d0a94cb3a6f@r...> you write: >I'm probably being thick.. but I don't understand this. That's probably >because I think *semantics* are entirely in the eye of the beholder. If they were *entirely* in the eye of the beholder, then XML wouldn't help interoperability at all. For example, as I suggested before, you could encode all your information in the spacing between attributes, but then what good would it be to use XML? No other XML tool would understand it. Long ago ASCII, and later Unicode, saved us from having how to decide how to encode characters for each application. Apart from saving us the effort of choosing, this had an obvious advantage: we could write all kinds of tool that were useful for many different file formats. We could edit Fortran programs and invoices with the same editor. We could grep for strings or count lines in any kind of text file. XML does the same at the next level up: it saves us from choosing a format for simple nested structures and named attributes. And it lets us build generic tools that can do useful things with all kinds of XML document - consider XSLT for example. We have gained that at the expense of removing some semantics from the eye of the beholder. We accept start and end tags as meaning some kind of nesting. We accept attributes as things that are identified by name, not position. And we accept white space inside tags as just being for formatting and readability. A binary file could be considered to conform to the "grammar" of ISO Latin-1, because it consists of a sequence of 8-bit bytes. But it isn't Latin-1, because the bytes aren't interpreted in the way that Latin-1 specifies. Likewise a file that looks like XML but assigns significance to attribute order may conform to the grammar of XML, but it isn't XML. And this is a good thing, because imposing such (minimal) semantics allows us to write a range of generic XML tools. >It seems to be that *some* editors might understand *all* of the >semantics of XML (as I believe you mean it), but augment them with >constraints/semantics above and beyond those? Yes, an XML editor could do that. But when it preserved the order of attributes, it would be operating merely on the syntax. -- Richard 
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