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kurt re
Len,

This does not surprise me in the least, sad to say. I've had a feeling
for several years that 3D would be the hardest nut to crack XML-wise
-- not because XML is inherently inferior for 3d work, but because
there was already such a strong invested interest group in maintaining
their status quo.

-- Kurt


On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:33:02 -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len)
<len.bullard@i...> wrote:
> David is right.   The former VRML group, now X3D, is having
> a heckuva row over the XML-encoding in X3D.  A group of the
> VRMLers with content and/or implemented engines fight the
> XML encoding tooth and nail.  The majority of the new members
> come in with some XML background and a solid conviction that
> XML opens up 3D to more users and applications.  These don't
> tend to be the C++ programmers who are more likely to support
> the curly bracket camp.  On the other other hand, all of the
> new interchange syntaxes such as Collada are XML-based and
> the arguments there are NIH and the use of elements vs
> attributes (sorta myopic but there it is).
> 
> It is an interesting debate from a social perspective.
> 
> len
> 
> From: David Megginson [mailto:david.megginson@g...]
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 7:54 AM
> 
> It might depend on the audience.  A few years ago, I did a major
> restructuring of the Open Source FlightGear simulator, moving as much
> of the configuration as possible out of the C++ and into XML (the
> physics models for aircraft were already using a pseudo-XML, but
> everything else was hard-coded).    A short while after that, the
> contributor base grew enormously, drawing in people with little or no
> programming experience but other useful skills, such as 3D modelling,
> aerodynamics, etc.
> 
> So, in this case, the majority of *coders* know C++ better than XML,
> but the majority of *contributors* know only XML.  They don't know it
> all that well, but XML doesn't have to be hard -- just make sure the
> tags match, escape the special characters, quote the attributes, and
> remember that names are case sensitive.
> 
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Kurt Cagle
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