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• To: David Lyon <david.lyon@c...>
• Subject: Re: on-the-wire xml ... Even if you're ...
• From: Rick Marshall <rjm@z...>
• Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:17:35 +1100
• Cc: xml-dev@l...
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• Organization: Zenucom Pty Ltd
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David Lyon wrote:

>Rick,
>
>On Friday 28 January 2005 06:53 pm, Rick Marshall wrote:
>  
>
>>at this stage xml is a core technology - you have no way of knowing how
>>much is out there.
>>    
>>
>
>But this can be guestimated by talking to people and some organisations
>have tried to quantify it.
>
>Anyway, my great dispute isn't how much or little it is being used but
>why it isn't being used in absolutely every business in an on-the-wire
>manner that extends past the adsl router...
>
>  
>
>>right now we use xml for message exchange within the organisation (why -
>>tools, data independence in face of a changing app, etc etc ) with
>>thousands of messages a day moving between machines.
>>    
>>
>
>But you are advanced Rick... and you have fun with these things
>and are a clever C programmer.
>
>but your view of computer communications is based on messages
>and transactions. That's the old school. 
>
>The new xml Grid view is where all the machines are nodes and the
>data is spread. The transactions are deep.
>
>and there's potential for a whole new world of "transaction types" that 
>have never even been imagined that you can do with a grid typology.
>
>for example, do a product search for a "audi a4 bumper" but all the 
>machines/merchants receive the search text. Everybody receives
>everything that everybody searches for. 
>
>  
>
i'm starting to see the issue here. the grid is a subset of a much wider 
messaging environment. if you look at the original ws stuff there's a 
very big picture out there that encompasses these issues.

xml is, at last, the glue that makes it all work.

rick

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