[XML-DEV Mailing List Archive Home] [By Thread] [By Date] [Recent Entries] [Reply To This Message]

Re: Web Services/SOA (was RE: XML 2004 weblog items?

• To: xml-dev@l...
• Subject: Re: Web Services/SOA (was RE: XML 2004 weblog items?)
• From: Michael Champion <michaelc.champion@g...>
• Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:42:21 -0500
• Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=J9wtswpBifGMefCbcHrh5xvQjm6/Oa1SMdkIvpwTR3LMRm/nx0Dnj4OtsnhcE1YIpSvLGRaICQxRFTKb8dqSL0q+3hDjvSA5Ol+EGih7D5OATiG9J8tCt8iui7eoKZ0pDRboeQsZDFQixl4NSByVDkSYVKV6KSvR4G7k3E0FcJk=
• In-reply-to: <20041201205838.GN3016@m...>
• References: <20041130025726.GJ3016@m...> <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0411292204040.9116-100000@s...> <20041130054325.GK3016@m...> <41ADF4B5.2040503@d...> <20041201205838.GN3016@m...>
• Reply-to: Michael Champion <michaelc.champion@g...>

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:58:38 -0500, Mark Baker <distobj@a...> wrote:
 
> > >Practically all the Web services I've seen deployed on the Internet
> > >(via xmethods.net) is RPC too.
> >
> > So what?
> 
> Well, I think it means that many well-intentioned developers, who want
> to contribute to the Web services vision, aren't being given a
> consistent (or even coherent) message about how exactly they should go
> about doing that.  

IMHO the modern "web services vision" is that web services are
*technologies* that don't imply a consistent message about how they
should be used.  One can use SOAP/WSDL to support plain-ol' RPC,
distributed object architectures, or services oriented architectures. 
With WS-Transfer or a roll-your-own SOAP format, one can use them to
support an essentially RESTful architecture.

That's the main reason (at least in 20/20 hindsight) for the WS
Architecture working group not continuing on a Recommendation path: it
concluded that there is no "Web Services Architecture", although there
are clearly multiple architectural patterns that can be implemented
using web services.

• References:
  • Re: Web Services/SOA (was RE: XML 2004 weblogitems?)
    • From: Rich Salz <rsalz@d...>
  • Re: Web Services/SOA (was RE: XML 2004 weblog items?)
    • From: Mark Baker <distobj@a...>

• Prev by Date: Re: Wikipedia and Topic Maps
• Next by Date: Re: Web Services/SOA (was RE: XML 2004 weblog items?)
• Previous by thread: Re: Web Services/SOA (was RE: XML 2004 weblog items?)
• Next by thread: Re: Web Services/SOA (was RE: XML 2004 weblogitems?)
• Index(es):
  • Date
  • Thread