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Re: Meta-somethingorother (was the semantic web mega-permathre

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• Subject: Re: Meta-somethingorother (was the semantic web mega-permathreadthing)
• From: Rick Marshall <rjm@z...>
• Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:34:12 +1000
• Cc: "'Michael Champion'" <mc@x...>, "'XML Developers List'" <xml-dev@l...>
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you may want to disagree... but, by definition meta data cannot be 
determined by the content of the data.

you see the <meta/> tag and it's associates are actually part of the 
data set. so although they are something, strictly speaking they are not 
meta data.

i think this is a very important distinction.

rick

Didier PH Martin wrote:

>Hi Mike
>
>  
>
>>I'm not sure why PIM records are metadata rather than data, but I
>>understand the point -- WinFS isn't about adding more human-authored
>>metadata, it's about capturing data/metadata/whatever in a consistently
>>queryable way.    Sortof like XML :-)
>>
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>
>Good point Mike, otherwise this would imply that we are the data and our
>address book record the meta-data. I know in the case of startreck and Mr
>Data this sounds true but for us mortals....being called data is not the
>supreme compliment to say the least :-)
>
>I wonder how winFS will extract the meta-data from the data (i.e. the files)
>and what kind of algorithm it will use. Will it be an automated process (and
>probable error due to the algorithms especially in the case of statistical
>processing compared to linguistic processing), will it be a manual process
>(just observe how zealous people are with actual document management systems
>asking to fill some meta-data :-), will it be both? Anyway, meta-data in the
>context of the intranet is a completely different ball game. Will winFs
>sufficiently expandable to allow the replacement of the automated
>classification engine? If yes, just having a common publishing format is a
>great gain. Will it be RDF or a new MicrosoftML language?
>
>Cheers
>Didier PH Martin
>
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