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Re: Semantic Web Services

• To: Mark Baker <distobj@a...>
• Subject: Re: Semantic Web Services
• From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@b...>
• Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:04:14 -0400
• Cc: XML Developers List <xml-dev@l...>
• Organization: Booz Allen Hamilton
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Mark Baker wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 12:37:38PM -0400, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
> > Mark Baker wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:10:57AM -0500, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> > > > A simple question, but one that could get to
> > > > the heart of whether or not we should expect
> > > > to see growth in the semantic web business:
> > > >
> > > > What are some services that SemWeb
> > > > applications could expose for discovery
> > > > and integration into web client applications
> > > > including mobile applications?
> > >
> > > Do you mean Semantic "Web Services", or "Semantic Web" services?  The
> > > former, IMO, is best ignored, because it's tied to Web services/SOA
> > > which I don't consider workable for Internet scale integration.
> >
> > Please elaborate in detail.
> 
> Missed the REST debates did we? 8-)

Nope - caught them all, thanks. ;)
 
> I won't get into detail here - check the Web Services Architecture WG
> mailing list archives for that - but I'll just say that Web services
> exist because many people were under the impression that the Web
> couldn't be used to solve machine-to-machine integration problems.
> They were mistaken.  Where that leaves us now is essentially with two
> competing architectural styles.  

Won't reopen a permathread, but I will mention that I don't view these
as necessarily competing - that is, not in all cases. There are, of
course, distinct cases where one architectural style trumps the other.

Kind Regards,
Joe Chiusano
Booz | Allen | Hamilton
Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World

> The distinction I tried to make above
> reflects those two styles.
> 
> Followups on that to www-ws-arch@w... please.
> 
> To Len; RDF in UDDI is a Good Thing, given that UDDI is being used, and
> those using it could benefit from RDF.  However, I would have preferred
> that UDDI never existed in the first place and that HTTP and http URIs
> were used instead, ala;
> 
>   http://webservices.xml.com/pub/a/ws/2002/02/06/rest.html?page=2
>   http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/1680
> 
> Mark.
> --
> Mark Baker.   Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.        http://www.markbaker.ca

-- 
Kind Regards,
Joseph Chiusano
Associate
Booz | Allen | Hamilton

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    • From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@b...>
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