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RE: Meta-somethingorother (was the semantic web mega-permathre

  • To: 'Miles Sabin' <miles@m...>, xml-dev@l...
  • Subject: RE: Meta-somethingorother (was the semantic web mega-permathread thing)
  • From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <len.bullard@i...>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:54:17 -0500

RE:  Meta-somethingorother (was the semantic web mega-permathre
Too far.  It did work last time.  AI systems, notably expert 
systems written in languages suited to the task such as Prolog 
or LISP work.  SGML works too. (Corrupt history leads to 
corrupt conclusions, and that is the SemWebs biggest and 
most intractable obstacle.)  What was learned is that AI is tedious 
to write and difficult to scale.  Say:  expensive.  

Following these threads, the point of the SemWeb seems to be:

1. One language moreorless, so as cheap as possible.
2. One language moreorless, so scaling comes of linking and that 
   is what networks do.
3. Applications of the linked information:  TBD.

I agree that the frustration of STimBL down to Elliotte is in 
item three.  Systems doing this work do it without items 
one and two so items of type three never get on the radar.

This may come down to 'not enough customers really want 
machines to do this work' for reasons which are not 
coupled to the technology.  See para 1 above.

The 'telephone to financial conversations' app is  
called a 'link analysis' application.  Those are 
used in the industry I work in.  Abstractly, 
mining hidden links among loosely coupled processes can 
be applied to other information domains.  How to treat 
these as so-called 'proofs' is interesting because the 
measure of 'proof' always takes in more 'proof systems' 
and rules.  The measures of proof for a technician repairing 
an engine and that of a judge deciding if a warrant is 
merited are not the same.

len


From: Miles Sabin [mailto:miles@m...]

For seconds, I think it's quite reasonable to question whether it's 
worth even bothering to read TFM if it's more or less the same old 
stuff that didn't work last time with no reasonable expectation that 
the new twist (angle brackets and URIs) is going to help find a useful 
route out of the blind alley.

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