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 Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: > At 12:57 PM -0400 4/11/04, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > >> The improper use of an 'XML' label is a fair concern. On the other >> hand, its use, qualified so as to indicate that it is something >> different or additional, is a signal that something is working to >> maintain a majority of semantics and idioms of XML. >> > > Additional, fine. (Think XML Namespaces, XSLT, XML Schema, XML Query > Language, xml:id, etc.) none of which in any way alter the basic > nature of XML. From XML 1.1: 4.3.3 Character Encoding in Entities Each external parsed entity in an XML document MAY use a different encoding for its characters. The basic nature of XML is a permathread issue that won't reach complete agreement. What I am proposing is an alternate encoding. Not just a character encoding, but an alternate structural encoding while retaining all XML logical structural elements. Is the fact that the structure is more complex, but equivalent to character-based structure important? IMHO, not in most cases. I understand the difference of opinion. > Different: not OK. If it's not a text format fully compatible with the > XML specification, then it's not XML, and please don't use the word > "XML" (or preferably the initial letter X) to describe it. XML is > text. XML is syntax. XML is not the infoset. The infoset is derived > from XML, not the other way around. SAX and DOM are are APIs for > processing XML. XML is not a serialization format for SAX and DOM. > Alternate representations of the Infoset are not XML. Alternate > formats that expose a SAX or DOM API are not XML. > > Merely maintaining the "semantics and idioms of XML" (not that I think > that will actually be done when the rubber hits the road) is > insufficient to justify the use of the label XML. As Tim Bray once > said, "If you bring an application to market and wave the XML banner, > what that means to me is that you're willing to accept input in XML, > and you'll give me back information in XML, without stealing any of it." I absolutely expect every library to accept XML 1.1 and be able to output XML 1.1 without "stealing any of it". Additionally, it should support input and output of a more efficient encoding. sdw -- swilliams@h... http://www.hpti.com Per: sdw@l... http://sdw.st Stephen D. Williams 703-724-0118W 703-995-0407Fax 20147-4622 AIM: sdw begin:vcard fn:Stephen Williams n:Williams;Stephen email;internet:sdw@l... tel;work:703-724-0118 tel;fax:703-995-0407 tel;pager:sdwpage@l... tel;home:703-729-5405 tel;cell:703-371-9362 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard 
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