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• To: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
• Subject: Re: ASN.1 is an XML Schema Language (Fix those lists!) and Binary XML not needed...
• From: John Larmouth <j.larmouth@s...>
• Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:07:27 +0000
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Len,

I like your comments! And ASN.2 may not be the right descendent. In the present 
climate "Abstractions" or just "the A notation" might be better!

But as you say, many brain cycles could be consumed on the name!

Now, am I a pioneer, rancher or cowboy or dude?  I am sure I was a pioneer in 
the 1980s (it is easy to recognise that in retrospect).  But it is hard to 
pretend to be so today (age 60+!).  But a rancher - that is for the tool vendors 
- not me.  A cowboy - at least in the UK, that has VERY negative connotations! 
It means a con-merchant.  I hope I am not that.  A dude - I guess that has even 
worse publicity, as a simpleton that understands nothing - but I do seem to get 
involved in selling - good ideas still seem to need to be sold!  Maybe I *am* a 
dude, but I hope I am not a simpleton.

*** (I suggest that no-one replies to this thread - it is not useful!) ***

John L


Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> For every feature of SGML that was taken out of XML, 
> there was an existing application that used it.  If 
> you go down this path, you may be required to consume 
> the parent language.  XML killed SGML.  ASN.2 may be 
> required to do the same.  If so, start the debate on 
> the new name now as that debate will consume a lot 
> of cycles later.
> 
> Then you can consider the parent language the pioneering 
> effort that secured your future just as SGML/HyTime/DSSSL 
> secured the future of XML and other markup systems to come. 
> There is nothing wrong with profiting twice from one technology 
> if you are certain that profit comes of improvements and the 
> enabling of larger markets.  Pioneers secure the future; 
> ranchers develop it; cowboys work it; dudes sell it.  Pick a role.
> 
> len
> 
> From: John Larmouth [mailto:j.larmouth@s...]
> 
> Suggestions for an ASN.2 that is a cut-down, basic, ASN.1 abound.  But the 
> problem is that for every feature you look at, there are real
> specicifications 
> out there that use it!
> 
> 

-- 
    Prof John Larmouth
    Larmouth T&PDS Ltd
    (Training and Protocol Development Services Ltd)
    1 Blueberry Road
    Bowdon                               j.larmouth@s...
    Cheshire WA14 3LS
    England
    Tel: +44 161 928 1605		Fax: +44 161 928 8069

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