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Re: XHTML 2.0 (was DTDs: Teilite vs. Sdocbook)

• To: Joe Gregorio <joe@b...>
• Subject: Re: XHTML 2.0 (was DTDs: Teilite vs. Sdocbook)
• From: Jonathan Robie <jonathan.robie@d...>
• Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:25:12 -0400
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At 12:56 PM 7/30/2003, Joe Gregorio wrote:
>Jonathan Robie wrote:
>>I really want support for basic document hierarchies, which XHTML is not 
>>really designed for. I could useful structure if I modified my local 
>>XHTML DTD so that H1-H6 could only be used together with DIV elements 
>>like this:
>>   <div>
>>       <h1>Hierarchy is good.</h1>
>>       <p>Boy, do I miss 'section' elements when I use XHTML.</p>
>>       <div>
>>              <h2>Nested hierarchy is great</h2>
>>              <p>But a browser can read this as is.</p>
>>       </div>
>>   <div>
>
>It is too bad that the XHTML 2.0 WG has strayed[1], as this is supported 
>in XHTML 2.0:
>
>   <section>
>       <h>Hierarchy is good.</h>
>       <p>Boy, do I miss 'section' elements when I use XHTML.</p>
>       <section>
>              <h>Nested hierarchy is great</h>
>              <p>But a browser can read this as is.</p>
>       </section>
>   </section>

That would be great. I will welcome it when it comes out.

For now, I investigated adding this to the XHTML DTD, and there are two 
basic problems:

1. XHTML has too much stuff that I don't want. For instance, I don't want 
my header element to allow base, link, meta, object, script, style.  (I 
would also like to have some additional elements in a header that are not 
defined in XHTML for author name and address, abstract, etc.)

2. The general strategy for integrating text elements in XHTML is very 
permissive, allowing h1-h6 all in the same context, and if I try to 
introduce s1-s6 for sections at levels 1-6, I have to do significant 
restructuring of the DTD to make them nest properly.

I could just add section and h, as above, but then my browser doesn't know 
how to display it unless I use a stylesheet. And if I have a stylesheet, I 
can use sdocbook.dtd or teilite.dtd.

Someone suggested in private email that tei is "not XSLT-friendly". I can't 
think of why this would be the case. On the other hand, the number of tools 
designed for docbook really does seem to be much bigger.

Jonathan 

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  • XHTML 2.0 (was DTDs: Teilite vs. Sdocbook)
    • From: Joe Gregorio <joe@b...>

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