FW: ezmlm warning
This is just an example of what is wrong with the mailing list program. My ISP bounced two messages bounced in the recent past, two out of probably hundreds successfully sent before and after those bounces. My ISP was probably going through maintenance or something small crisis like most small ISPs do. Yet ezmlm is threatening to remove me from the list if a single probe it sends bounces. Chances are the probe will not bounce, but if it does, I am going to get unsubscribed 'without further notice'. More reasonable policy would be to monitor for a week and deal only with those that consistently bounce. It is unreasonable for ezmlm to expect 100% uptime from my ISP nor is its warning helpful at all since there is nothing I can do about it. Best, Don Park Docuverse -----Original Message----- From: xml-dev-help@l... [mailto:xml-dev-help@l...] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:27 PM To: donpark@d... Subject: ezmlm warning Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the xml-dev@l... mailing list. I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at xml-dev-owner@l.... Messages to you from the xml-dev mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received. If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the xml-dev mailing list, without further notice. I've kept a list of which messages from the xml-dev mailing list have bounced from your address. Copies of these messages may be in the archive. To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), send an empty message to: <xml-dev-get.123_145@l...> To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages, send an empty message to: <xml-dev-index@l...> Here are the message numbers: 21059 21060 --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received. Return-Path: <> Received: (qmail 9222 invoked by uid 60881); 4 Mar 2003 05:19:51 -0000 Received: from by hermes by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.15 (spamassassin: 2.43. Clear:SA:0(-1.5/8.0):. Processed in 0.309863 secs); 04 Mar 2003 05:19:51 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=8.0 Received: from unknown (HELO pyramid-02.kattare.com) (188.8.131.52) by mail.oasis-open.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 05:19:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost) by pyramid-02.kattare.com (8.12.8/8.12.3) id h245QQ9f025251; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:26 -0800 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:26 -0800 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@p...> Message-Id: <200303040526.h245QQ9f025251@p...> To: <xml-dev-return-21059-donpark=docuverse.com@l...> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com The original message was received at Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:24 -0800 from [184.108.40.206] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <donpark@d...> (reason: 550 5.7.1 <donpark@d...>... Relaying denied) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mail.kattare.com.: >>> DATA <<< 550 5.7.1 <donpark@d...>... Relaying denied 550 5.1.1 <donpark@d...>... User unknown <<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient) --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; pyramid-02.kattare.com Arrival-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:24 -0800 Final-Recipient: RFC822; donpark@d... Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.kattare.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 <donpark@d...>... Relaying denied Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:26 -0800 --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Return-Path: <xml-dev-return-21059-donpark=docuverse.com@l...> Received: from mail.oasis-open.org ([220.127.116.11]) by pyramid-02.kattare.com (8.12.8/8.12.3) with SMTP id h245QObK025243 for <donpark@d...>; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:24 -0800 Received: (qmail 8243 invoked by uid 60909); 4 Mar 2003 05:18:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xml-dev-help@l...; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: <mailto:xml-dev@l...> List-Help: <mailto:xml-dev-help@l...> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xml-dev-unsubscribe@l...> List-Subscribe: <mailto:xml-dev-subscribe@l...> Delivered-To: mailing list xml-dev@l... Received: (qmail 8237 invoked by uid 60881); 4 Mar 2003 05:18:44 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=8.0 Message-ID: <3E6439CC.98A244F4@e...> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:29:48 -0800 From: Michael Brennan <mpbrennan@e...> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "xml-dev@l..." <xml-dev@l...> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ANN] Small, simple Java-based XML output library X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact your ISP for more information - Be sure to include all mail headers X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-6, required 5, BAYES_10, KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL) --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com--
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