[XML-DEV Mailing List Archive Home] [By Thread] [By Date] [Recent Entries] [Reply To This Message]

Re: The subsetting has begun

users of pristine water
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:49:31 +0000, Bill de hÓra <bill@d...> wrote:

> Sure thing. But we'd be all well served not muddying XML with XML 
> Infosets.

For better or worse XPath/XSLT and DOM dumped a lot of mud into the water 
very shortly after the XML 1.0 syntax spec came out. I really don't think 
there's any point in longing for the pristine waters of pure XML, unless of 
course you want to get rid of XPath, XSLT, DOM ... along with XSDL, SOAP, 
XQuery, and a bunch of other stuff that many people here WOULD like to get 
rid of :-)

I'm sure there's a few thousand people out there who would be happy users 
of pure syntax XML tools such as SAX, and maybe the databinding specs could 
be tweaked to support DTDs and RELAX NG rather than XSDL, and that might 
make the syntax a bit more accessible to ordinary programmers.  But it 
seems to me that if you want to toss out all the flavors of Infosets, the 
XML party is pretty much over for the vast majority of users.

In other words, it's not going to happen, so what's the point of wishing it 
would?  I wish people would just acknowledge that the XML syntax and 
Infoset(s) were joined at birth (every well-formed XML document can be 
parsed into a tree). Then maybe we could do what has to be done to make the 
actual Infoset spec more useful (e.g., by making the language less awkward, 
such as "element" rather than "element information item" [gag]), and making 
it as formally rigorous as the syntax spec (somebody said that this could 
be done with ASN.1, but I don't know that).   My wish sounds about as 
futile as Bill's wish for pristine waters, I fear.   


Purchasing Stylus Studio from our online shop is Easy, Secure and Value Priced!

Buy Stylus Studio Now

Download The World's Best XML IDE!

Accelerate XML development with our award-winning XML IDE - Download a free trial today!

Don't miss another message! Subscribe to this list today.
First Name
Last Name
Subscribe in XML format
RSS 2.0
Atom 0.3

Stylus Studio has published XML-DEV in RSS and ATOM formats, enabling users to easily subcribe to the list from their preferred news reader application.

Stylus Studio Sponsored Links are added links designed to provide related and additional information to the visitors of this website. they were not included by the author in the initial post. To view the content without the Sponsor Links please click here.

Site Map | Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Trademarks
Free Stylus Studio XML Training:
W3C Member
Stylus Studio® and DataDirect XQuery ™are products from DataDirect Technologies, is a registered trademark of Progress Software Corporation, in the U.S. and other countries. © 2004-2013 All Rights Reserved.