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Re: Remembering the original XML vision

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• Subject: Re: Remembering the original XML vision
• From: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@s...>
• Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:04:12 -0500
• In-reply-to: <oprkpbg3moezizxn@s...>

mc@x... (Mike Champion) writes:
>I must be missing something -- a lot of people whose opinion I respect
>seem to be drawing the wagons around XML 1.x, warts and all.   Serious
>question: what's driving this?  Are people who practice XML 1.x now
>being forced by their customers, partners, tools, etc. to deal with
>the cruft that we've just complained about in the abstract for the
>last few years?  Is it getting harder to call oneself an "XML
>specialist" without being asked to deal with gHorribleKludge types,
>incomprehensible and non-interoperable WXS schemas, SOAP-RPC
>fantasies, and XQueries from hell, and it pisses people off that the
>core stuff that really DOES work (e.g. DTDs for documents) is losing
>mindshare?
>
>I could definitely understand the gloom and doom if that is true...

That's what I'm finding, yes.

I could probably bring myself to ignore such problems if XSLT/XPath 2.0
hadn't been dragged into the muck of WXS.  I have to admit I was
depressed today to see that SAXON 7.4 has added type madness, if only
through the especially mad xsi:type approach.  Now, as a Java-based
developer, I get to choose between the out-of-date XT, the enormous
Xalan, and the only-advancing-in-the-2.0-flavor SAXON.  Yeesh.

If all the WXS and strong typing stuff was merely a nuisance that could
be easily ignored because no one had heard of it, I don't think I'd be
too worried.  Since it seems to be infecting the toolkits I use and the
minds of the people I work with and sell to, its poison is setting in
for real.



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Simon St.Laurent
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