Re: Typing and paranoia
Mike Champion wrote: > On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:45:02 -0800, Paul Prescod wrote: > > > Mike Champion wrote: > > > >> ... > >> "Note that, because SOAP is Infoset based, in a situation where two > nodes > >> share a memory (run on the same processor or tightly coupled MP), > > > > > > Why would the _world wide web_ consortium have anything to say one way > > or another about a situation where two nodes share a memory? Talk > > about scope creep! > > > I'm pretty sure that's not a quote from me, but nevermind. Sorry. But it was quoted approvingly. > I don't think the W3C can have it both ways: if the "Web" is the set > of things > identifiable by a URI, and the endpoints of these messages are > identified by a URI, they're on the Web, no? According to this logic, the W3C is responsible for the upcoming war in Iraq because I can invent URIs for both America and Iraq. I'm not kidding. That's what you're saying. The W3C is responsible for any interactions between any entities addressed by URIs! I think that the W3C is responsible for maintaining the standards for a particular Internet-based information system. Things that do not go across the Internet are not their concern. > But more pragmatically, if the W3C doesn't concern itself with this > stuff, who will? It WILL be somebody, and they WILL NOT share the > W3C's values about universality, vendor/language/platform-neutrality, > and royalty-free intellectual property. If the W3C clearly valued these things then it would NOT allow the SOAP specification to leave a hole the size of the Indian ocean for proprietary vendors to invent random binary formats and claim that they are fully SOAP compliant. On the other hand, if the W3C invented a _particular_ binary format and said that the SOAP specification can _also_ be used with that format then interoperability would be possible and lock-in prevented. But the spec as it is is wide open. You didn't respond to my Quake UDP packet example. If I write up a mapping from these packets to SOAP is Quake SOAP compliant? If so, then in what sense does a declaration of SOAP compliance have any interoperability benefits? Paul Prescod
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