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Re: Typing and paranoia

• To: Mike Champion <mc@x...>, XML Dev <xml-dev@l...>
• Subject: Re: Typing and paranoia
• From: Paul Prescod <paul@p...>
• Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:45:02 -0800
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Mike Champion wrote:

> ...
> "Note that, because SOAP is Infoset based, in a situation where two nodes
> share a memory (run on the same processor or tightly coupled MP), 

Why would the _world wide web_ consortium have anything to say one way 
or another about a situation where two nodes share a memory? Talk about 
scope creep! XML is defined in terms of its syntax and yet people work 
with DOM's and infosets without XML in their programs. Nobody claims 
they are doing anything non-standard because, after all, the XML 
specification applies to data on the Web, not within a program.

Furthermore, I would argue that the entire SOAP spec does not reflect 
the issue in real life that flexibility and interoperability can be in 
competition. If someone wants to make a _standard_ for binary, in-memory 
SOAP, then interoperability is possible. On the other hand, if SOAP 
merely "leaves open the door", then interoperability will not occur. 
Therefore, it would be better to shut the door and have someone else 
open it _when_ they need the feature _and_ are willing to _standardize_ 
it so that it is actually interoperable.

Are you comfortable with the fact that Quake UDP packets can be 
considered legal SOAP messages given a prose mapping from their internal 
structure to the XML infoset?

  Paul Prescod

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