Re: overrun with bohemians?
Simon St.Laurent wrote: > Maybe most of the gentry and royalty have left the list - talk of > revolution and guillotines probably doesn't help - but xml-dev seems to > have gone over pretty thoroughly to the position Uche described as > bohemian. > > There are certainly document folks around, but there are also lots of > people who work with data and even think in terms of data, but who value > XML's labeled but untyped textual foundations. Indeed. Typing can be as useful as any metadata can be, and thus just as dangerous. We may have too little experience as yet with typed XML to know just how much damage it can do, but if there's anything to learn from programming languages, it's clear that it should *never* be enforced, and *never* be made necessary. It's one and only place is in pattern matching and specific processing, ie optional, failsafe metadata. > It makes me feel more optimistic than I have in a while, though I also > worry that this is simply a place where bohemians congregate. I don't want to be too much on the doom and gloom side, but again if programming languages are anything to judge the future by it doesn't look good. I've already had otherwise perfectly smart people and daily users of XML stare at me aghast with a "what... you mean you can have schemaless XML documents?". I'm afraid it won't be long before we start hearing "typeless XML!!!! but that's dangerous!", or "yeah, cute, but you can't do a real project with that", and "bah, that's not serious XML". Types are indeed very useful when used right, and I'm happy to have them handy when they're needed... but in the event that they become omnipresent, I must say that the frog in me likes that guillotine talk he's hearing ;) -- Robin Berjon <robin.berjon@e...> Research Engineer, Expway 7FC0 6F5F D864 EFB8 08CE 8E74 58E6 D5DB 4889 2488
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