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 Today we have the web. Discounting Web Services and the Semantic Web, what happens next? What is the third way, Simon? --- Danny Ayers <stuff> http://www.isacat.net </stuff> >-----Original Message----- >From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@s...] >Sent: 24 April 2002 23:25 >To: Mike Champion >Cc: xml-dev >Subject: Re: SemWeb again > > >On Wed, 2002-04-24 at 17:01, Mike Champion wrote: >> 4/24/2002 12:33:29 PM, Paul Prescod <paul@p...> wrote: >> >Given these facts, I have recently tended to give the SemWeb the benefit >> >of the doubt. It is probably in the same state SGML was before XML. It >> >needs a simplification and some killer apps. >> >> Perhaps, but it has generated an awful lot of ill feeling for >the W3C leadership, in my >> humble and personal opinion garnered from many private >conversations. Whatever the >> justification for that ill feeling, it is critical for SemWeb >advocates to understand and >> come to grips with it. >> >> I see three general threads in the critique of the semantic web >initiative: > >While I think your critique of the Semantic Web is quite reasonable, and >I consider myself generally hostile to both Web Services (WS) and the >Semantic Web, I think you've missed something important as you picked up >Dare's red herring. > >In the past, I'd hoped that the SW and WS would just plain counteract >each and keep each other at bay. I don't see that happening now that >each has its own activity. That said, it's worth contrasting the two >activities in terms of their relevance to and impact on the Web. > >The Semantic Web, for all its folly, isn't really a threat to Web >architecture per se. While I think TimBL's insistence that we let him >return RDF in dereferencing namespace URIs is hideous and ugly, it's >hideous and ugly for reasons that have more to do with XML than anything >Web-like that came before. The Semantic Web is basically about creating >frameworks that rest on top of the Web-as-we-know-it and reusing them. > >Whether those frameworks make sense or not is a different matter. > >Web Services is a very different matter architecturally. It makes an >even greater mess of our limited understandings of URIs by putting >multiple potentially unknown possibilities behind a single URI, >conflates headers and messages constantly, and its creators appear to >have zero patience for any notion of the Web that might in fact >constrain whatever they feel like doing. > >While the Semantic Web may be a waste of time, it's no threat to the >Web, and may in fact end up enhancing the more conventional Web. While >Web Services may feel like today's hot and exciting thing, it feels to >me like pollution of the Web at a very fundamental level. > >Agent Orange did a very nice job defoliating trees - hey, it worked! It >also had some nasty side effects. > >-- >Simon St.Laurent >Ring around the content, a pocket full of brackets >Errors, errors, all fall down! >http://simonstl.com > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an >initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > >The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > >To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription >manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> > 
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