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Re: WD for Namespaces 1.1

• To: Marcus Carr <mcarr@a...>
• Subject: Re: WD for Namespaces 1.1
• From: Elliotte Rusty Harold <elharo@m...>
• Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 07:06:07 -0500
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At 9:53 AM +1000 4/5/02, Marcus Carr wrote:


>... and SVG as well, but those DTDs aren't subject to change based on the
>contents or requirements of the instance. Using a more document-oriented DTD,
>inclusion of a fragment of data from a different namespace involves modifying
>the DTD. This may not be practical even though it is possible.
>

OK. You want a little more than simply validating against the URI 
instead of the prefix.  You want to be able to mix vocabularies and 
still have the document validate. I think your real argument then is 
with the conservative nature of DTD validation (Everything not 
permitted is forbidden) rather than with namespaces. The same 
problems would arise without namespaces; e.g. if we were to mix a 
namespace-less well-formed HTML with the namespace-less MathML 1.0.

However, even here modularization with parameter entities does make 
it possible to do what I think you want. You can validate XHTML plus 
MathML or XHTML plus SVG. You just need to use a master DTD that 
pulls in both individual DTDs and redefines the parameter entity 
referenced accordingly to add one batch of elements to the content 
specifications of the other batch of elements. It's messy, but it 
does work.

But again, this really has nothing to do with namespaces. It's a 
question of mixing multiple vocabularies, and you'd have the same 
problems with or without namespaces.
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