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We're seeing increased interest and some of it is coming in the form of Schemas, not interest in schemas. There are efforts in legal systems, other justice systems, and in message formats national and state to state communications. We also have a conservative user base, but one with international problems. Given we use relational technology, Schemas are a straightforward way to get certain jobs done. I found XML Spy with it's ODBC utility to be good for getting the job started. After that, one begins to discover the problems in the original source table definitions and XML Schema plus a tool is good for outing those. Automagic only goes so far. I admit freely that our uninitiated with oop backgrounds ignore schemas until it is too late. The instance fragment I posted the other day is an example of what can happen. XML is very flexible and that can be a wonderful and terrible thing given the passion to rush to coding out of an eight hour introductory class. With regards to MS XML documentation: it appears that MS uses a lot of automation to organize its site. That's just a guess. Because MS has created and used or discarded a lot of technologies, it can be difficult to sort out which one applies when to a particular problem. Also, while Terrarium and the like are fascinating (the use of ecosystem metaphors for web services: whoda guessed), MS needs to spend the time and money to re-organize its XML documentation and training assets into one that leads the user skillfully through the learning curve. It does this well in parts (eg, the project series types), but this is all scattered about. Sometime should be spent refocusing and planning a coherent presentation, and possibly retiring some of the older articles. The reference material is generally good, the problem reports useful, etc., but the smooth entry from newbie to guru, not so smooth. No more FatMSBooksDoomedToBeDoorstopsInSixMonths. len -----Original Message----- From: Michael Brennan [mailto:Michael_Brennan@A...] I have no hard statistics, but given that we are finding that our customer base is showing interest in XML Schema, and our customer base represents a somewhat conservative (with respect to technology) segment of the market, I would say that the speculative claim of about 1% of users using XML Schema is extremly dubious -- and even those not currently using XML Schema often have plans to start using it. If I were to extrapolate from our customer base, I would put the estimate at closer to the 10-20% range and growing.
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