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Re: WSIO vs. Semantic Web

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• Subject: Re: WSIO vs. Semantic Web
• From: Gavin Thomas Nicol <gtn@r...>
• Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:30:50 -0500
• In-reply-to: <PNWQ1T43PNSOVPWQ421ZD8XXWYW7185.3c6ad236@MChamp>
• Organization: Red Bridge Interactive, Inc.
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On Wednesday 13 February 2002 03:53 pm, Mike Champion wrote:
> >I would argue that you cannot avoid these things. Application
> >semantics/interaction styles exist, one way or another. The
> > sequence of interactions, and the data exchanged are necessarily
> >application-specific... you cannot deduce them from the permissible
> >operations without some form of definition.
>
> I meant that the "representation transfer" operations are generic,
> not the operations that are specific to the semantics of the data. 

The point I was making is that in some cases, these operations really 
aren't generic, and in many cases, aren't anywhere near enough to 
explain the dynamics of the application... so the whole thing about 
"visibility","portability", etc. is a read-herring, except in the 
scope of a particular application. This is precisely the same debate 
people end up with when taking about "self describing" XML.... just 
moved to protocols.

If you're talking in the context *of* the web as a single 
application... it's very different from talking about network 
computing in the general sense. What I've been trying to point out is 
that the choice of network architecture is dictated by the 
application. I would argue that web services/rpc etc. are really a bit 
outside the scope of "the web" per se. and rightfully should be.

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