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Re: Re: Why REST was Re: URIs are simply names

saint names
David Carlisle wrote:
> > Yes. The namespace is, in fact, the identified resource.
> This clearly is not the case (and the namespace spec only says that
> namespace names are identfiers of a resource not that they are the
> resource.

What I said. The _namespace_ is the resource, the _namespace name_ is the
identifier of the resource. Don't conflate the name with the thing.

> It's like saying that children should be given saint's names,
> it doesn't mean that they become saints (whatever the parents may hope).

Except that the URI <-> resource mapping is _defined_ to be 1:1 , clearly
not so with common names.

> Name any URI that specifies a resource that is not a namespace,
> and I'll show you a conforming document that uses the URI of that
> resource as a namespace name. the existence of this document does not
> change the nature of the resource identified by the original URI.

It is the _owner_ of the DNS entry that gets to say what the resource is.
Certainly you can abuse the intention of the owner, and if the owner of the
URI never intended it to be a namespace, then this is simply an abuse. What
results is the same inability to communicate as if I state "1 + 1 = 3" -- my
own internal rules of math may switch all occurences of "2" and "3" and
reach _internal_ consistency. What I will find is that people will not
believe what I say.

Bottom line:

well known URI:  http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform
what is the identified resource? surely the XSLT namespace (just ask the URI
by GETting it -- it says so)



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