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 > This is so interesting! > > If by Microsoft prototype you mean > http://131.107.228.20/xquerydemo/ > > Insert / Delete / Update > > this is really neat stuff! > [Michael Rys] Yes. This is the prototype I refer to. Note however, that the update language there is much behind the current state of the work. > What is the status of UPSERT word? [Michael Rys] We are debating on what to call it and whether to include it as a required functionality. > Is there any paper on W3C website that > contains this word, or this is MS-only thing? [Michael Rys] This is combined work from some people participating in the XML Query WG, Microsoft included. Note however, that the standard disclaimers about no commitment to productization etc apply. > Also, I tried searching for the word 'update' in the > http://www.idealliance.org/papers/xml2001/papers/html/03-01-04.html > but it seems there is no such word in the document. > > Maybe you're referring to some other Jonathan Robie's > XML 2001 talk? [Michael Rys] See http://www.idealliance.org/papers/xml2001/papers/html/05-03-02.html Regards Michael > Rgds.Paul. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Rys" <mrys@m...> > > > Note that XQuery is planning on adding update syntax and semantics (for > an example see the syntax in the Microsoft prototype and Jonathan > Robie's XML 2001 talk) and several people in the working group are > working on it. It probably won't be part of 1.0 though for not delaying > 1.0 even further. > > Best regards > Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dare Obasanjo [mailto:kpako@y...] > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 21:56 PM > > To: xml-dev@l...; Joe English > > Subject: Re: Recently published W3C Working Drafts (long) > > > > Doesn't anyone else see something wrong with THREE different languages > > with > > significantly differing syntax that have roughly the same > functionality > > (querying) with yet NONE have update or delete semantic? However some > > people > > think that the time has come for XML databases? Interesting.. > > > > PS: IMHO, until someone comes up with a language with simple > > SELECT-DELETE-UPDATE semantics, XML databases will be the OODBMSs of > the > > new > > millenium. I remember being introduced to XML and thinking that the > > concepts > > behind relational databases were more complex than those behind the > > hierarchical structures that encompass XML, amazingly enough the W3C > has > > proved me wrong by producing increasingly complex languages that > > supposedly > > deal with handling XML in databases yet have much less functionality > than > > a > > simple language like SQL. *sigh* > > > > -- > > THINGS TO DO IF I BECOME AN EVIL OVERLORD #202 > > All crones with the ability to prophesy will be given free facelifts, > > permanents, manicures, and Donna Karan wardrobes. That should pretty > > well destroy their credibility. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe English" <jenglish@f...> > > To: <xml-dev@l...> > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 6:41 PM > > Subject: Re: Recently published W3C Working Drafts (long) > > > > > > > > > > Michael Kay wrote: > > > > > > > To sum it up rather briefly, I think XQuery 1.0 is essentially > XPath > > 2.0 > > > > plus > > > > 1) element and attribute constructors > > > > 2) function definitions > > > > 3) strong typing > > > > Of course (1) is available in a different form in XSLT 1.0, and > (2) is > > > > available in XSLT 2.0, so you could say that apart from syntax, > XQuery > > is > > > > XSLT plus strong typing minus template rules. Those might seem > small > > > > differences, but I happen to agree with those who believe that the > > addition > > > > of strong typing and the absence of template rules are both very > > important > > > > when it comes to optimizing a query to execute against a large XML > > database > > > > with pre-defined indexes. > > > > > > That makes sense. XSLT is very difficult to optimize, so > > > XQuery has an advantage by virtue of what it leaves *out*. > > > > > > > > > --Joe English > > > > > > jenglish@f... > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > > > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > > > > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > > > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> > 
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