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 Chris Parkerson wrote: > > [putting on my technology bulletproof vest and marketing glasses] > > Embrace and extend... sounds REALLY familiar ;-> > > At least we admit it's not XPath... > > And we ARE talking technology... if I was talking marketing; I would let > you call it XPath ;-> Ok, before this turns into an all out flame war... None of the XML databases on the market can really claim that they support standards (including dbXML) because there are no well established standards evolving for XML databases. The goal of the XML:DB initiative is to start addressing these common issues between XML Databases where their requirements don't fall within the charter of the W3C... Though the charter of the W3C seems to be organically spreading into domains it had never originally been drafted, and has absolutely no business, but that's a whole other rant. The work that the W3C is doing, including XQuery, XPath, and XML Schemas don't even come close to truly addressing the requirements of XML databases, and so vendors are forced to do what is necessary to provide the users with what they need. Sometimes this is bastardizing XPath, sometimes it's extending schemas to support indexing. These are not bad things, but are solutions being born out of necessity. This is an infant market. There is no right way to do things, and so there is no one vendor doing it right, much less doing it better. Instead of complaining about how your competitor isn't 'truly' compliant, when that label can't truly be achieved with the current state of the art being released by the W3C, why not start participating more actively in the XML:DB initiative instead of using the XML:DB mailing lists (as you use XML-Dev) to plug your products? This challenge is not directed at any specific vendor, but to all. It took over a decade for relational databases to establish themselves, and even longer for there to be any truly common/standard CLIs and query languages. We have the opportunity to accomplish these goals much more rapidly, but it can only be done if we work together at it, instead of trying to one-up each other. -- Tom Bradford The dbXML Project Open Source Native XML Database http://www.dbxml.org 
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