[Home] [By Thread] [By Date] [Recent Entries]

  • From: Francis Norton <francis@r...>
  • To: "Roger L. Costello" <costello@m...>
  • Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:50:41 +0100

Hi Roger,

"Roger L. Costello" wrote:
> 
> 
> My vision of next generation Web Services is an XML-document-based
> architecture, with a well-defined set of elements.  I envision the XML
> documents conforming to an XML Schema.  I envision schema validation of
> the documents.  I don't see any of this in SOAP.
> 
I agree with you preference for document-based transactions over
parameter-based transactions (in my darker moments I tend to mutter that
those who push parameter-based SOAP "just don't get it").

But I've been using SOAP with WSDL as part of Web Services
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861005091 if you'll forgive a
plug) and there's a lot of support - in .Net at least - for
document-oriented SOAP web services. You can generate an entire proxy
client complete with synchronous calls, async calls and XML <-> object
serializers and de-serializers from WSDL with an embedded schema, and an
abstract server class too, using Visual Studio.Net or the wsdl.exe
command line tool, and I imagine that other Web Services environments
have similar support.

But we have to keep raising the issue - I feel that Web Services will
reach out to a large constituency including many for whom code is
self-evidently more important than data, and some who understand the
primacy of data for productiity  but dislike the complexity of XML
Schema, and these may shift its focus.

Francis.

Site Map | Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Trademarks
Free Stylus Studio XML Training:
W3C Member