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[XML-DEV Mailing List Archive Home] [By Thread] [By Date] [Recent Entries] [Reply To This Message] XML: Still Just HypedWebStuff
 David Megginson wrote: > > Not only could we, but many of us have -- I've written quite a few > thousand lines of LISP in my life, and I know that it works fine for > representing data structures, but nobody uses it. XML also works > fine, and everyone uses it. Actually, no. It just looks like that from the chair. Most proposals I see still accept and endorse CSV. If you try to deliver XML to the FBI for NIBRS, for example, they will send it back to you and say, "Try again. No certification." Seems they are heavily invested in some new tech on old tech. > So, let's get on to the interesting > stuff, and actually start doing something with information rather than > just marking it up. Hmm. Maybe not so fast. Got to do that cost analysis first. I think if we actually look at a lot of server sites, we will find relational databases, eg, SQLServer, Oracle, etc., doing some variant of ASP slicing and dicing of recordsets, wrapping them in HTML, and sending them back. All of the ads in the paper here look for ColdFusion authors, etc. So, sure, there may be advantages to XML, but they are still more hyped than realized. Right now, XML is still the newKidOnTheBlock, trendy, but unproven. We have a few more years of waiting for stable platforms, and the DoJ case just pushed that out a little further. Are we quickly heading back to the same market and community conditions that beset CALS: lots of agreements, separated by miles of NIH water. consultants who get fat but systems that aren't compatible, pronouncements of the next new thing, and conferences where the consultants flock around the newest toy? I wish it weren't so, but all the discussion of SML assures me it is. What we have is a more complete toolset than we have ever had, cheaper tools, a simpler spec that is made complex by the family of spawning application languages, so just as heavy and just as hard to learn by the majority if a little more palatable to the hardcore parser junkies, and industries still unconvinced that the performance is realizable, or that their razor thin margins can be sustained when shoppers see the price everytime they put something in the virtual cart, and have no incentive to impulse buy. The Kroger online shopping experiment is fascinating. They did it here in Huntsville. The published results were that it wasn't well accepted; the unpublished *comments* are that when you let them out of the store without passing the Enquirer counter, they don't buy, and there goes the margins. Again, to quote my boss at GE in the Eighties, "All this visibility f**ks up the game." Took me a long time to figure out what he meant: if the capital flow lessens, the quality subsides concurrently. Ask yourself why ANY good technical VP responsible for the bottom line of his company implements a technology that costs more to implement and maintain owing to the instability of the platforms, has to be sold for less given the hyped perception of ease and ubiquity, and in the end, gives moreorless the same results as the relational system and CSV? Cost justify XML. len xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To unsubscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; unsubscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...) 
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