Re: second implementation of XSLT 2.0?

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Subject: Re: second implementation of XSLT 2.0?
From: Jim Melton <jim.melton@xxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:15:58 -0700

At 11/23/2005 07:29 AM, Elliotte Harold wrote:

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The W3C has never been the best organization for test suites and interoperability. For instance they do not require even one complete implementation before advancing to REC, only that each feature be independently implemented. It is possible for a W3C spec to be actively self-contradictory as long as different implementations implement different internally consistent subsets.

Not so. It's dangerous to make broad generalizations, particularly when the maker is not part of the environment about which the generalizations are being made.

"They" are not a uniform, homogenous mass. "They" are instead a diverse bunch of Working Groups, each of which has to follow the W3C guidelines and directives (the Process Document), but that have flexibility that enables them to develop more stringent criteria than the Process Document requires.

For example, the XML Query WG has developed, not only a pretty comprehensive test suite, but requirements for exiting the Candidate Recommendation stage that include "at least two implementations of each individual feature", but also "at least two distinct implementations" of Minimal XQuery (which, despite the name, is the entire suite of specifications except for the seven optional features), "at least one of which uses the XQuery human-readable syntax defined in this specification, and at least one of which uses the XQueryX XML syntax defined in [XQueryX]". (You can read this for yourselves in the CR document of XQuery, located at http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery/#status.)

So, your assertion has been disproven by providing a single contrary example. Gratuitous criticisms are unwarranted, especially when untrue.

Hope this helps,
   Jim

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Re: second implementation of XSLT 2.0?, (continued)
- Frans Englich - 23 Nov 2005 02:17:55 -0000
  - Elliotte Harold - 23 Nov 2005 14:29:14 -0000
    - Jim Melton - 23 Nov 2005 17:28:04 -0000 <=
    - M. David Peterson - 30 Nov 2005 05:54:31 -0000
    - Michael Kay - 30 Nov 2005 08:12:53 -0000
    - Mulberry Technologies List Owner - 30 Nov 2005 14:40:03 -0000
- Michael Kay - 23 Nov 2005 14:03:24 -0000

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