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Thanks Rick for a) coming up with Schematron - simple when explained well, horrendously complex until then. b) the work you've put in to get it to ISO. It's slowly disappearing into the woodwork, as is XML, just a nice tool to use when needed. IMHO a vote of confidence. So bloody useful it should not be allowed to die. Thank you. Dave P On 19 May 2016 at 12:53, Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@a...> wrote: > The 2006 edition of schematron came out in 2006, but it was largely based on > Schematron circa 2003. > > In 2007 I put out a request for suggestions to the public > http://archive.oreilly.com/pub/post/what_else_should_schematron_ha.html > > In 2008 I submitted my ideas to the ISO group. You can hear the audio > through the link. I requested more comments from the Schematron mail list > etc. > http://www.eccnet.com/pipermail/schematron/2008-October/000061.html > I had implemented most of the changes in the Schematron.com version. > > In 2010 I made a draft revision, and asked the community for comments. > http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/04/public-draft-of-next-generatio.html > > The Working Group submitted it to international voting. It was accepted with > conditional revisions by Japan on a particular explanatory issue relating to > predicate logic. > > At this stage, it stalled. [[I found it impossible to find anyone in > Australia familiar enough with predicate logic syntax to get the parts that > Japan was concerned about right: I finally found a prof at UNSW who would > help, but I had conked out: it took multiple years to recover from my > pericardial surgeries. My hard disk and my new backup drive failed, so I > lost my sources: Murphy's law. Access to Schematron.com fell into a black > hole as an ISP changed (no drama, but no resolution still) and I needed to > concentrate on rebuilding my life: I think I worked pretty hard for the > first decade of Schematron from 1999 on Schematron, especially trying to > list on my blog various techniques that otherwise someone might patent, > more work than I could do in the second decade. (I have worked on using > Schematron for three very large multi-year projects though: so it is still > in my life.)]] > > I did move the code to google.com but this needs to get moved to gitlab. > > ISO standards are renewed every ten years. So the version that ISO has > adopted as the 2016 standard is the 2010 revision. Hurray! I am often > surprised where it is used, and thAt it really has a good life of its own > without any push by me. For example, procurement : PEPPOL BIS v1- optional — > PEPPOL | Pan-European Public Procurement Online. > > Finally it is out: and a very big thanks to Murata-san and the WG for taking > over and seeing it through when I could not. And a bigger apology that I > could not complete the last steps of the Editor's job as committed. > > If you are looking at other extensions that build on Schematron: the two > biggies are UBL code lists and W3CQuickFix. > > Cheers > Rick > > On 14/05/2016 1:25 AM, "Tony Graham" <tgraham@a...> wrote: >> >> I found out today that a second edition of ISO Schematron was published >> in January: https://webstore.iec.ch/publication/24049 >> >> - Is there a publicly available version of the standard, as there is >> for the first edition [1]? >> >> Buying it from ISO comes out at about EUR 4 per page, but if you >> shop around, you can get it for nearly twice that [2]. >> >> - Are the schemas for Schematron and SVRL publicly available? >> >> I'm told that SVRL now allows rich and foreign elements and >> attributes in failed-assert and successful-report, but that's >> all that I know. >> >> - Are there updated XSLT stylesheets available for working with >> second-edition Schematron? >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Tony Graham. >> -- >> Senior Architect >> XML Division >> Antenna House, Inc. >> ---- >> Skerries, Ireland >> tgraham@a... >> >> [1] http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/index.html >> [2] http://shop.bsigroup.com/ProductDetail/?pid=000000000030219663 >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS >> to support XML implementation and development. To minimize >> spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. >> >> [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ >> Or unsubscribe: xml-dev-unsubscribe@l... >> subscribe: xml-dev-subscribe@l... >> List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ >> List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php -- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. Docbook FAQ. http://www.dpawson.co.uk
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