RE: "Introducing MicroXML, Part 1: Explore the basicprinciples
I still find this a tantalizing discussion. My question is this: Suppose we identify a really useful set of attributes for "doing X" and want to include it in the xml namespace. ( note: for MicroXML thats the ONLY namespace ???) ... And suppose we really believe this is useful stuff. Question: How sure are we that we have it right ? Once things get baked in they are pretty baked. I believe a lot of XMLish things failed because the were not quite baked before being pulled out of the oven. Even today I am not quite convinced of the validity of a URL vs a URI. That is, what *is* the guarantee that a URL actually can be indirected to a resource, and that resource is what we think it is ? Of course that hasn't stopped HTML href's ... they sometimes work ok :) So if we propose adding something useful to a new standard ... how sure are we its the right thing ? I can accept that its "optional" but if it's not well defined and not quite right then that is worse than nothing not better. I am not convinced, even looking over the shoulders of giants, that the link problem has been solved properly. ---------------------------------------- David A. Lee firstname.lastname@example.org http://www.xmlsh.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Rushforth, Peter [mailto:Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 11:00 AM > To: email@example.com; John Cowan > Cc: David Carlisle; firstname.lastname@example.org > Subject: RE: "Introducing MicroXML, Part 1: Explore the basic > principles of MicroXML" > > From the abstract: > > "It is a goal to use the power of XML to create a structure that can describe the > simple unidirectional hyperlinks of today's HTML as well as more sophisticated > multi-ended, typed, self-describing links." > > This seems to have two contradictory goals, really. Simplicity, yet complexity. > > I don't know, but what might The Rule of Least Power  say about the issue? > I would think it would be something like enabling XML with the most power by > limiting the complexity of the approach, rather than using the full power of > XML to "solve" the problem. > > Peter > >  http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/leastPower.html > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Liam R E Quin [mailto:email@example.com] > > Sent: July 3, 2012 02:04 > > To: John Cowan > > Cc: David Carlisle; firstname.lastname@example.org > > Subject: Re: "Introducing MicroXML, Part 1: Explore > > the basic principles of MicroXML" > > > > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 01:18 -0400, John Cowan wrote: > > > Liam R E Quin scripsit: > > > > > > > The right thing would have been to have taken the architectural > > > > forms idea from HyTime and XMLified it, solving the additional > > > > problem of "link discovery". That's with 20-20 hindsight. > > > > > > The original version of XLink *was* AF-based. See > > > http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-xml-link-970731 . > > > > Yes, kinda (not using PIs) but in a very SGML/DTD way, not > > surprisingly given when the work was being done (I was > > actually on the WG for a while). Thanks for the reminder, I > > had indeed forgotten that stage. > > > > Liam > > > > > > -- > > Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, > > http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: > > http://fromoldbooks.org/ > > Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > _________ > > > > XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS > > to support XML implementation and development. To minimize > > spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. > > > > [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ > > Or unsubscribe: email@example.com > > subscribe: firstname.lastname@example.org > > List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > _______ > > XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS > to support XML implementation and development. To minimize > spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. > > [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ > Or unsubscribe: email@example.com > subscribe: firstname.lastname@example.org > List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php >
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