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From: Eric van der Vlist [mailto:vdv@d...] >So what? The Web doesn't belong to the W3C. The decisions about standards for the web do or at least have. That was one of the prices for eviscerating ISO early in the web's emergence. It may be changing but ever so slowly because other concerns (see DoD) made the decision to embrace the W3C. That convinces platform developers, platform developers make tools for a rather large group, and their choices are limited by that process. The web doesn't get a choice because it can't make one. Abstractions have only virtual methods. No bytes change state. > >That being said, I agree that W3C XML Schema is dominant in the crowd > of "XML enterprise developers" but that's a > > relatively small community compared to the Web community. But one that buys platform tools. I suspect that 'enterprisy' meme is a rather calculated tactic by some developers who resent that they aren't getting enough attention for their choices. It is a cry of pain but from a self-inflicted wound. In fact, enterprise designs are thriving. One wishes they didn't have to use so much bloatware, but this is phase created by earlier decisions. Again, swapping energy for time. >> XML Schema dominates the tool stacks and that group of developers is by far larger than the users of RELAX. >Sure. My point was that a much more larger group do not use any schema at all, which also means that the outcome is still >open. If they don't use schemas, how do they vote? The decision is closed for now as much as any decision in a dynamic environment is ever closed. >Anyway, I am completely lost in this discussion. I fail to see the relation between 80% of your previous mail and the > mail to which it was supposed to answer and in the remaining 20% I see a majority of rather arbitrary assertions... You don't see it? Hmm. Maybe that is the point. You can't. You aren't a schema user. So why would it matter to you at all? 1) The choice of schemas is made by users of schemas. 2) The choice of choices of schemas is made by those who a) Create choices by developing and releasing them b) Mandate choices by winnowing among the available choices. Again, there may be a sudden dramatic shift to RELAX, but it will take time because enough people have to be experienced enough and capable of making the choice. Otherwise, they use what is at hand based on the choices of others. Small groups can choose smartly. Very large groups choose mediocrity. The Web doesn't choose. It endures choices. len
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