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• To: "Nathan Young -X \(natyoung - Artizen at Cisco\)" <natyoung@c...>
• Subject: RE: Invitation to metadata dictionary wiki - meaningfuel.org
• From: "ROR" <dev@r...>
• Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:33:17 -0500
• Cc: <xml-dev@l...>

Hi Nathan,

The jellybeans example is also a good one.

PageRank uses links as votes from other pages (weighed by their page's 
own PageRank). 

Yes, we will definitely add more documentation for the editing 
process. 

Thanks,

-Dom 




> The genius of PageRank is not in the links, it's in the filtering
> algorithm.
> 
> A famous early example of wisdom of the crowds was done on a "guess 
the
> number of jellybeans" contest.  The average guess was much better 
than
> any of the individual guesses.  The simplicity of this masks the fact
> that "average" is an algorithm that encodes the rule "people will 
err on
> the high side as much as they will err on the low side".  The 
algorithm
> only works as well as the rule applies.
> 
> Maybe a twiki will work well for meta data, it's hard to tell.  If 
you
> want to piggyback on the success of wikipedia though, you might take
> additional pages from their book and write some content guidelines:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ
> 
> Particularly:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_is_an_article
> 
> parts of
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorisation_FAQ
> 
> and some form of equivalent to:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style
> 
> ----------->Nathan
> 
> 
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> 
> Nathan Young
> CDC Site Dev->Interface Development Team
> A: ncy1717
> E: natyoung@c...  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ROR [mailto:dev@r...] 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:20 PM
> > To: Bullard, Claude L (Len)
> > Cc: xml-dev@l...
> > Subject: RE:  Invitation to metadata dictionary wiki 
> > - meaningfuel.org
> > 
> > Hi Len, 
> > 
> > There are some very successful technologies out there that are 
> > essentially powered by the people. PageRank is a great 
> > example of that.
> > 
> > -Dom
> > 
> > 
> > > Which makes it suitable for picking the contestants on 
> > > American Idol but probably not for picking tools to 
> > > use in surgery.
> > > 
> > > The problem of the 'wisdom of crowds' is knowing 
> > > 'crowds of what?' in advance of applying the wisdom.
> > > 
> > > It's not simply a matter of merging but also of 
> > > knowing what levels of abstract to concrete terms 
> > > a merged term belongs to.
> > > 
> > > object -> vehicle -> car
> > > 
> > > merge: transportation
> > > 
> > > The problem of Darwinian systems is that some 
> > > competitors agree not to compete and also to 
> > > eliminate the third party, aka, market fixing.
> > > That is the chimp way.  You are building a 
> > > chimp ontology.
> > > 
> > > That's fine.  Chimps need them.
> > > 
> > > len
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: ROR [mailto:dev@r...]
> > > 
> > > Hi Jonathan,
> > > 
> > > Good questions! I think the best way to look at the 
> > meaningfuel wiki 
> > > is as some sort of "natural selection metadata". Some terms will 
> > > vanish after two weeks, other more adequate terms, will live 
> > forever. 
> > > Similar terms (i.e. from different ontologies) will compete, and 
> > here 
> > > too, only the most adequate ones will survive.
> > > 
> > > >From time to time we plan to produce a release of the 
dictionary, 
> > > which  will only contain those terms that have reached 
sufficient 
> > > stability and maturity.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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