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Re: Talking of HTML.... Anyone like lock-in?

• To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@i...>
• Subject: Re: Talking of HTML.... Anyone like lock-in?
• From: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@g...>
• Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 03:25:32 +0200
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* Henri Sivonen wrote:
>For XHTML 2.0, there should be no quirks mode. Therefore, it should 
>always be beStrictBaby="true". No sniffing needed. No doctype needed.

I am afraid you greatly underestimate the importance of DTD validation
in the HTML Working Group's belief system; I think, basically, without
DTDs, your markup will not be blessed with His Noodly Appendage which,
I think, will make the brain slugs angry.

In fact, http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/rdf-a cites DTD validation as
one of the main challenges addressed by the design of the XHTML 2.0
meta data system. Obviously, if you'd allow for something like

  <blockquote dc:source="http://example.org/">...

not only your head will instantly explode, it will also not validate
with DTDs. The solution is of course obvious,

  <blockquote>
    <link rel="dc:source" href="http://example.org" />

This markup can, of course, be touched by His Noodly Appendage. The
XHTML 2.0 Working Draft further explains how elements are basically
obsolete with this brilliant design approach, for example,

  The title of a document is metadata about the document, and so
  a title like <title>About W3C</title> is equivalent to <meta
  about="" property="title">About W3C</meta>.

The RDF/A draft also kindly explains how this approach is superior
to having the old incorrect and dangerous cite="" attribute on the
blockquote element.

When evil heretics try to explain their (obviously flawed) view that
DTD Validation might not be such a strong requirement in this regard
they are instantly urged to read documents like Sean B. Palmer's
excellent but, to the heretics' obviously misguided minds, for XHTML
2.0 irrelevant <http://infomesh.net/2002/rdfinhtml/#embedNoValidate>.

Thankfully they are not mislead by such heretic suggestions, after
all, "we have an important charter here that we need to fulfill."
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