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Re: Document oriented experience reports anyone?

• To: Bob Foster <bob@o...>
• Subject: Re: Document oriented experience reports anyone?
• From: Nadia.Swaby@p...
• Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:35:19 -0400
• Cc: Michael Champion <michaelc.champion@g...>, Rick Jelliffe <ricko@a...>, XML Developers List <xml-dev@l...>

Hi All

I totally forgot that I had already resolved this problem months ago (I had
to evaluate the software before ordering it, and procurement takes a long
time around here).  The only thing I don't know is how Documentum will
handle this (we won't be moving to Documentum 5 until July, and 4i doesn't
play nice with Schemas).

Nadia


                                                                                                                                 
                      Bob Foster                                                                                                 
                      <bob@o...>         To:       Michael Champion <michaelc.champion@g...>                          
                                               cc:       "Nadia.Swaby@p..." <Nadia.Swaby@p...>, Rick Jelliffe                
                      2005-06-08 14:19          <ricko@a...>, XML Developers List <xml-dev@l...>              
                                               Subject:  Re:  Document oriented experience reports anyone?              
                                                                                                                                 




XMLBuddy, Oxygen and no doubt other editors support using DTDs for
entities but not for validation, as the XML spec allows a non-validating
parser to do. XMLBuddy uses an off-the-shelf parser (XercesJ). The only
issue is finding the right feature incantation that makes it work.

I believe the industry as a whole is gradually reacting to this common
use case. In another forum, Michael Glavassevich wrote: "The JAXP 1.3
Validation API [1][2] decouples the process of validation from parsing.
You will be able to perform schema validation without also having to
turn on the [DTD] validation feature."

It's certainly the path of least resistance to Just Do It as opposed to
inventing a replacement for DTD entities. If your favorite parser
doesn't support this use case, send them a bug report.

Bob Foster
http://xmlbuddy.com/

Michael Champion wrote:
 > On 6/8/05, Nadia.Swaby@p... <Nadia.Swaby@p...> wrote:
 >
 >
 >>In summation, schema can be very useful in publishing, but the lack of
 >>entity support is a huge drawback.
 >
 >
 > Strictly speaking, one can use DTDs (to declare entities) in
 > conjunction with XSD to define everything else.  After all, DTD
 > operates on XML syntax and XSD is defined on the Infoset.  I suspect
 > that there are gotchas that make this difficult ... does anyone know
 > what they might be?
 >
 >
 >>I guess I should copy and paste this in word and send it to the W3C!
 >
 >
 > Yes!

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