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Re: Jim Gray article on Next Generation Databases

• To: Peter Hunsberger <peter.hunsberger@g...>
• Subject: Re: Jim Gray article on Next Generation Databases
• From: Rick Marshall <rjm@z...>
• Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:38:30 +1000
• Cc: Ken North <kennorth@s...>, xml-dev@l..., Michael Champion <michaelc.champion@g...>, Jonathan Robie <jonathan.robie@d...>
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Peter Hunsberger wrote:

>On 5/4/05, Ken North <kennorth@s...> wrote:
>  
>
>>>>As others noted, however,  these ideas have been around for a long
>>>>        
>>>>
>>time, e.g. MUMPS was a DB deeply integrated into an OS and programming
>>language;
>>
>>Other examples of database integrated into the OS
>>
>>Microdata Reality (1974) -- first minicomputer to do this
>>IBM System 38 (1978) -- ancestor of the AS/400.
>>
>>If I remember correctly, Microdata used a microprogrammable instruction set for
>>the Reality. (Microcode implemented data management operators as part of the
>>machine's instruction set.)
>>    
>>
>
>Interesting: somewhere between  1982 - 88  I sat down with a bunch of
>hardware geeks who where looking at a way of exploiting a highly
>parallel design (multicore RISC) they had come up with and suggesting
>they do hardware/microcode based tree manipulation. (Never went
>anywhere, but I still have the notebooks in a closet.)  At the time I
>hadn't been able to come up with any other hardware based data
>management, but then again, I was only peripherally aware of the
>Microdata.  How is that you stumbled across it?
>
>  
>
maybe like me they were there.

the microdata units were sold in australia by awa (once a great 
electronics company) and were quite popular in their day.

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  • Re: Jim Gray article on Next Generation Databases
    • From: David Lyon <david.lyon@c...>
  • Re: Jim Gray article on Next Generation Databases
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  • Re: Jim Gray article on Next Generation Databases
    • From: David Lyon <david.lyon@c...>
  • Re: Jim Gray article on Next Generation Databases
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